# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 476
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9503 "2019-02-15T14:40:23Z")
> [@Biotop](#): > > Perhaps something scares him more than Mueller? How easy is it to smuggle Ricin into a prison? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9504 "2019-02-15T15:06:18Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > How easy is it to smuggle Ricin into a prison? Bake it into a cake and we’ll see! ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9505 "2019-02-15T16:27:30Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > Bake it into a cake and we’ll see! I didn’t say “rice pudding”. I said “\*ricin \*pudding”. It’s his own fault if he didn’t listen. Think of it as suicide by inattention. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9506 "2019-02-15T18:26:43Z")
If we knew he was coming … ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9507 "2019-02-15T19:28:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > If we knew he was coming … ♫ _If I knew you were baking I’d have come in your cake!_ ♫ ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9508 "2019-02-15T19:30:49Z")
Damn, son. You ejaculate ricin? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9509 "2019-02-15T19:32:29Z")
Yesterday, [Matt Schlapp](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/14/matt-schlapp-mueller-investigation-barr-1170731), head of the American Conservative Union and husband of Mercedes Schlapp, a White House strategic communications adviser, said: > [@](#): > > “Tomorrow will be the first day that President Trump will have a fully operational confirmed Attorney General,” Schlapp wrote Thursday on Twitter. “Let that sink in. Mueller will be gone soon.” I think that it is more interesting that today is the day the new AG is briefed on what Mueller has found. Much more likely that Barr will be astounded than eager to shut things down. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9510 "2019-02-15T19:55:52Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Much more likely that Barr will be astounded than eager to shut things down. Yeah, that sounds like some insanely wishful thinking, especially given Barr’s and Mueller’s shared history. That really seems to have the foxes spooked and looking for the henhouse exits. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9511 "2019-02-16T00:59:31Z")
Mueller recommends 19.5-24 years for Manafort: > ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9512 "2019-02-16T01:05:14Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Mueller recommends 19.5-24 years for Manafort: > > [https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1096566428340244480?s=19](https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1096566428340244480?s=19) For a guy turning 70 in April, that should do it. I guess they’ll have to put him in an administrative segregation housing unit so he doesn’t get shanked by some celebrity-seeking… roommate. I hope it’s hard time. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9513 "2019-02-16T01:22:13Z")
Too late to edit: [This story](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-russia-stone/u-s-judge-issues-gag-order-in-trial-of-former-trump-adviser-stone-idUSKCN1Q42JO?il=0) was also pleasing. (Reuters) > [@](#): > > Self-described “dirty trickster” Roger Stone will still be able to speak about his upcoming criminal trial under a gag order issued on Friday, but the U.S. judge handling the case warned the former adviser to Donald Trump that he might want to choose his words carefully. > > \ > > The order prohibits lawyers involved in the case from speaking with news media outlets and prohibits other participants, like Stone himself, from making statements that may affect the case when they are near the courthouse. Something tells me this will be a stepping, uh, stone to a full gag order. This guy would use his mother’s face as a foothold to climb his way up to a camera. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9514 "2019-02-16T02:07:06Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > For a guy turning 70 in April, that should do it. > > I guess they’ll have to put him in an administrative segregation housing unit so he doesn’t get shanked by some celebrity-seeking… roommate. > > I hope it’s hard time. He should get a tattoo of Nixon on his back for protection. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9515 "2019-02-16T02:36:00Z")
Here’s a link to the full sentencing memo. > **[Read: Paul Manafort's sentencing memo | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politics/manafort-sentencing-memo/index.html)** > > Special counsel Robert Mueller's team reveal Friday how long it believes former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort should spend in prison. Wow. This is some seriously harsh stuff. And when Trump hears about this (I almost typed “reads about this”, then caught the obvious error) he’s gonna need his 243 pound diaper changed. Because I promise you Trump has been doing stuff like this for decades. He’s dirty as fuck. And right now his accountants and Michael “Flip” Cohen are unloading on the Feds. Someday I’m going to be reading a document almost exactly like this with Trump as Defendant. Fuck Russia, that’ll just be the dressing on the cake. Oh well, time will tell, but the thought is a nice Friday night pick-me-up. A girl can dream. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9516 "2019-02-16T03:33:26Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > He should get a tattoo of Nixon on his back for protection. He sure should. \ > [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > Here’s a link to the full sentencing memo. > > [https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politics/manafort-sentencing-memo/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/politics/manafort-sentencing-memo/index.html) > > Wow. This is some seriously harsh stuff. And when Trump hears about this (I almost typed “reads about this”, then caught the obvious error) he’s gonna need his 243 pound diaper changed. > > Because I promise you Trump has been doing stuff like this for decades. He’s dirty as fuck. And right now his accountants and Michael “Flip” Cohen are unloading on the Feds. Someday I’m going to be reading a document almost exactly like this with Trump as Defendant. Fuck Russia, that’ll just be the dressing on the cake. > > Oh well, time will tell, but the thought is a nice Friday night pick-me-up. A girl can dream. I can’t agree with fuck Russia, but in all other respects, we are of an exact same mind. I want to see this filthy man taken down so bad. William Barr is about to become either the greatest hero or the most ghastly villain our country has ever known. I wish I knew which. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9517 "2019-02-16T12:23:08Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > He should get a tattoo of Nixon on his back for protection. Well, [dragons](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1W-EzDpZ1k) on the chest don’t work. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9518 "2019-02-16T15:27:37Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > He sure should. \ **I can’t agree with fuck Russia** , but in all other respects, we are of an exact same mind. I want to see this filthy man taken down so bad.\ Bolding mine. While his everyday basic real estate and other crimes are serious (Trump U). Treason is sort of serious shit. Best not to have a traitor in the White House. I don’t generally agree to make an example of someone’s crimes to deter others, but in this case, we should. If we don’t, every crook and con-man will just try to get elected to avoid legal trouble and enrich themselves. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9519 "2019-02-16T17:21:24Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > Yesterday, [Matt Schlapp](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/14/matt-schlapp-mueller-investigation-barr-1170731), head of the American Conservative Union and husband of Mercedes Schlapp, a White House strategic communications adviser, said: > > I think that it is more interesting that today is the day the new AG is briefed on what Mueller has found. Much more likely that Barr will be astounded than eager to shut things down. Barr better watch out too. It’s well known he was installed by Trump to kill and bury the investigation. It’s also very possible there’s a fat file on him too. I think if he does the right thing, it will be purely out of self preservation. He’s scum. Trump only hires scum like himself. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9520 "2019-02-16T17:26:35Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > He sure should. \ > > I can’t agree with fuck Russia, but in all other respects, we are of an exact same mind. I want to see this filthy man taken down so bad. > > William Barr is about to become either the greatest hero or the most ghastly villain our country has ever known. I wish I knew which. Well, I can agree with “fuck Russia”. They’ve been carrying Trump for a long long time (using real estate for money laundering), giving him no pay loans, sending secret money through Deutsche Bank, running hacking operations and disinformation scams to elect Trump, etc, etc. Putin and the oligarchs have been using him and the scum on his White House “staff” for years in one way or another. So yeah, fuck Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9521 "2019-02-16T17:39:19Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Damn, son. You ejaculate ricin? That would be telling. Nevertheless, now the song will be stuck in your head for the rest of your life. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9522 "2019-02-16T17:58:04Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Well, I can agree with “fuck Russia”. They’ve been carrying Trump for a long long time (using real estate for money laundering), giving him no pay loans, sending secret money through Deutsche Bank, running hacking operations and disinformation scams to elect Trump, etc, etc. Putin and the oligarchs have been using him and the scum on his White House “staff” for years in one way or another. > > So yeah, fuck Russia. I think my meaning has been misconstrued. I was responding with a perception that **Ann Hedonia** was saying that in the total scheme of things, Russia was not the important matter when she said, fuck Russia. I was saying I disagree with that. I think Russia is _the_ most important matter. Like **enipla** and **Steve1** said, it’s my view that we can’t accept on any level the insertion of a Russian asset, witting or unwitting, as our head of government. And while I understand it may not be the thing that takes Trump down, I believe it is a mistake to minimize in any way what clearly occurred. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=475) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=477)