# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 480
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9583 "2019-02-19T12:55:34Z")
Who the hell is representing him— Giuliani? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9584 "2019-02-19T13:24:33Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Dude. The Russians interfered with our election, at least if you believe he unanimous opinion if US intelligence agencies, along with pretty much every Congress person. His campaign manager is facing life in prison for a variety of crimes, including the revelation that he was passing information to the Russkies. Roger Stone was communicating with Wiki Leaks, specifically about the hacked DNC data. And sooo much more. > > Maybe Trump will ultimately be cleared, who knows? But you can take your “both sides are just as bad” ignorance and kindly ram it up your ass. Remember the Benghazi investigations? All seven of them? Zero indictments. > > Remember the Clinton impeachment? A blow job, a disbarring, but no revelation of a while crowd of criminal conspirators. > > You think they would not have loved to have pinned something on Obama? The dude was squeaky clean besides smoking. Big whoop. > > I am going to ask you to either pull your head out of your ass or fuck off. Need answer fast. This. Every last word of it. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9585 "2019-02-19T13:26:23Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Speaking of flag pins, more evidence of how obtuse the sons are: > > [TRUMP JR. CRITICIZES CONGRESSWOMEN FOR NOT WEARING AMERICAN FLAG PIN—HIS BROTHER TWEETED PIC OF ‘TEAM TRUMP’ DOING SAME THING](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-twitter-state-union-congress-congress-women-white-sufragettes-1321530) > > As Jimmy Kimmel said (IIRC), the apples don’t fall far from the orange tree. That bitch Junior is going to prison. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9586 "2019-02-19T14:07:22Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > That bitch Junior is going to prison. The would be the second most beautiful case of a Trump going to prison. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9587 "2019-02-19T15:16:44Z")
> [@Apollyon](#): > > If the POTUS is a patsy, surrounded by unscrupulous criminals, then don’t you want them investigated and brought to justice? 😕 I’ll answer this again, to address an additional facet of the issue, by admitting that my impression of the unscrupulous criminals surrounding Democratic leaders is that they are probably a little less dangerous overall than the ones manning the GOP battle stations. Probably only due to budgetary limitations. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9588 "2019-02-19T15:23:49Z")
Well, there you have, folks. This guy positively _revels_ in willful ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9589 "2019-02-19T15:48:12Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, there you have, folks. This guy positively _revels_ in willful ignorance. Well, I guess people should be proud of the skills they’ve honed and practiced. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9590 "2019-02-19T15:55:58Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Three hours until apology has to be a record, man. There’s usually a day or two of Internet backlash before apology protocol goes in effect. > > Only the best people. I don’t think it was internet backlash that led him to apologize, I think it was his lawyer’s backlash. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9591 "2019-02-19T15:58:04Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > I’ll answer this again, to address an additional facet of the issue, by admitting that my impression of the unscrupulous criminals surrounding Democratic leaders is that they are probably a little less dangerous overall than the ones manning the GOP battle stations. > > Probably only due to budgetary limitations. 😉 So… Trump and Co. may well be corrupt, venal, idiotic, and Trump has hired a bunch of clowns who met with Russian operatives to influence the election. But the Democrats are almost as bad because HERP DERP REASONS. And they are Democrats so we know they are bad. Jesus, this is probably one of the saddest, most pathetic comments I have seen here in a month. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9592 "2019-02-19T16:19:49Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So… Trump and Co. may well be corrupt, venal, idiotic, and Trump has hired a bunch of clowns who met with Russian operatives to influence the election. Trump didn’t hire anybody - they hired him. “So Don, ya know, we need somebody to look good for us on TV. We’re just bunch of rich old farts with liver spots and grey hair. That doesn’t really appeal to the, shall we say, less knowledgeable voters. Now YOU! You could be the man - really Don!” ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9593 "2019-02-19T16:32:15Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > Trump didn’t hire anybody - they hired him. “So Don, ya know, we need somebody to look good for us on TV. We’re just bunch of rich old farts with liver spots and grey hair. That doesn’t really appeal to the, shall we say, less knowledgeable voters. Now YOU! You could be the man - really Don!” Trump doesn’t look good on TV. Orange and incoherent. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9594 "2019-02-19T16:34:55Z")
> [@BeenJammin](#): > > Trump didn’t hire anybody - they hired him. “So Don, ya know, we need somebody to look good for us on TV. We’re just bunch of rich old farts with liver spots and grey hair. That doesn’t really appeal to the, shall we say, less knowledgeable voters. Now YOU! You could be the man - really Don!” Have you ever thought about posting a comment that’s true, accurate, or on point, just to see how it feels? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9595 "2019-02-19T16:46:16Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Have you ever thought about posting a comment that’s true, accurate, or on point, just to see how it feels? Not his style. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9596 "2019-02-19T16:52:20Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > I don’t think it was internet backlash that led him to apologize, I think it was his lawyer’s backlash. Almost certainly - a “notice of apology” isn’t really a thing that people file. This is what happens when your lawyers see a headline about you on CNN and realize what you’ve done, and then get on a really angry call about how you are very close to needing some new lawyers, and this is the best thing that the lawyers can come up with to do by the end of the business day. As it also happens, the judge has [requested the honor of Stone’s presence on Thursday afternoon](https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1097881734329315333?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) so that they can discuss whether the current gag order needs to be modified, and whether he should still be out on bail pending trial. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9597 "2019-02-19T17:00:46Z")
Oh, to be seated in that courtroom when Stone comes through the doors… ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9598 "2019-02-19T17:08:08Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > So… Trump and Co. may well be corrupt, venal, idiotic, and Trump has hired a bunch of clowns who met with Russian operatives to influence the election. > > But the Democrats are almost as bad because HERP DERP REASONS. And they are Democrats so we know they are bad. > > Jesus, this is probably one of the saddest, most pathetic comments I have seen here in a month. And it is a very accurate insight into how the Republican base thinks (or, more precisely, doesn’t think). This is what the Republican base is. Other, less idiotic, Republicans, say like **Bricker** or **Scylla** have been lying to themselves for years about the kind of people who made up the majority of people who voted Republican. But the one benefit of Trump and his high approval rating among Republicans, is that we now see the Republican base for what it really is. And it’s very, very ugly. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9599 "2019-02-19T17:10:39Z")
Judge Amy Berman Jackson has been most impressive as she has presided over Manafort, Gates, van der Zwaan and Stone matters. She has been careful, equitable, deliberate and clear in her rulings. She is the judge before whom any defendant should be grateful to appear. What Stone did was appalling. To even intimate a threat against a judge is such a serious matter. Judge Berman Jackson will be entirely justified to impose a full gag order, revoke his bail and remand him to custody forthwith. I hope she does. Maybe he can flash the ‘V’ sign before he is cuffed and shackled for his trip to the lockup. It did wonders for Manafort. ---
**Author:** ![BeenJammin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beenjammin/32/448_2.png) [@BeenJammin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeenJammin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9600 "2019-02-19T17:12:49Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Trump doesn’t look good on TV. Orange and incoherent. Yeah, I think in the rush to do as much damage as they could possibly get away with as quickly as possible, they kinda gave him too much leash on that and the makeup artists went rouge. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9601 "2019-02-19T17:13:43Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > And it is a very accurate insight into how the Republican base thinks (or, more precisely, doesn’t think). This is what the Republican base is. Other, less idiotic, Republicans, say like **Bricker** or **Scylla** have been lying to themselves for years about the kind of people who made up the majority of people who voted Republican. But the one benefit of Trump and his high approval rating among Republicans, is that we now see the Republican base for what it really is. And it’s very, very ugly. And not very smart. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9602 "2019-02-19T17:55:24Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > …Judge Berman Jackson will be entirely justified to impose a full gag order, revoke his bail … For one brief instant I read that as revoke his _balls_. Also a good idea. If she can find them. 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=479) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=481)