# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9803 "2019-03-04T14:04:50Z")

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😃

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9804 "2019-03-04T14:43:19Z")

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The price on the Muller/Dershowitz offering just dropped about $2 (according to Honey).

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9805 "2019-03-04T16:15:03Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You forgot to mention the radioactive pizza fed to the child slaves.

Gotta save _something_ for the sequel… 🆒

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9806 "2019-03-04T16:31:34Z")

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_Hillary II: The Enslavening_

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9807 "2019-03-04T17:10:15Z")

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The House just launched their probe into Donald Trump’s corruption. [Here is a list of the 81 people and organizations](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/complete-list-81-trump-associates-democrats-request-documents) they seek documents from.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9808 "2019-03-04T18:11:48Z")

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Former Acting Atty General Matthew Whitaker, Mr. Hot Tub Crime Machine himself, has [left the DOJ](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-whitaker-steps-down-20190304-story.html).

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9809 "2019-03-04T18:43:07Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The House just launched their probe into Donald Trump’s corruption. [Here is a list of the 81 people and organizations](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/complete-list-81-trump-associates-democrats-request-documents) they seek documents from.

It’s so hard to tell anymore what is a Major Fucking Development as opposed to just a Typical Trump Shitstorm. This appears to be the former, though.

These are all “requests”, right? Has the Committee said if it’s going to fire off subpoenas for these documents?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9810 "2019-03-04T18:47:01Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> It’s so hard to tell anymore what is a Major Fucking Development as opposed to just a Typical Trump Shitstorm. This appears to be the former, though.
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> These are all “requests”, right? **Has the Committee said if it’s going to fire off subpoenas for these documents?**

They have said they will, if cooperation is not voluntarily forthcoming.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9811 "2019-03-04T18:48:47Z")

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I’m sure they’d be glad to if pushed, but poor Donnie’s stuff is under audit! Seriously, they’ll do that without hesitation.

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9812 "2019-03-04T19:02:23Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The House just launched their probe into Donald Trump’s corruption. [Here is a list of the 81 people and organizations](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/complete-list-81-trump-associates-democrats-request-documents) they seek documents from.

Is a House committee meeting counted in TV ratings? Because the Matty da Squid Show will break all records.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9813 "2019-03-04T19:15:16Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> The House just launched their probe into Donald Trump’s corruption. [Here is a list of the 81 people and organizations](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/complete-list-81-trump-associates-democrats-request-documents) they seek documents from.

What a bogus list.

The last entry is the 58[sup]th[/sup] Presidential Inauguration Committee.

Everyone knows that proper ordering requires numeric characters to go first.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9814 "2019-03-04T19:29:22Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> What a bogus list.
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> The last entry is the 58[sup]th[/sup] Presidential Inauguration Committee.
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> Everyone knows that proper ordering requires numeric characters to go first.

I’ve been seeing numerical portions at the end of lists more and more, including my phone’s contacts list.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9815 "2019-03-04T19:34:09Z")

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But does 02 come before or after 1?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9816 "2019-03-04T19:35:33Z")

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Is it customary to sort a list on first names?

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9817 "2019-03-04T19:47:14Z")

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58th?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9818 "2019-03-04T20:04:00Z")

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> [@garygnu](#):
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> I’ve been seeing numerical portions at the end of lists more and more, including my phone’s contacts list.

Then I suggest you find out who’s perpetuating this error, and request that they fix it. If they demur, I suggest you upgrade the request to a demand.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9819 "2019-03-04T20:05:55Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> But does 02 come before or after 1?

Before, obviously. Zero is a lower value than One.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9820 "2019-03-04T20:11:59Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> 58th?

If any conspiracy theorists want to research which actual inaugurations each of the 58 committees worked on, they may be able to uncover an assassination plot from somewhere in our past.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9821 "2019-03-04T20:15:12Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Is it customary to sort a list on first names?

It’s not actually customary to sort with either first names OR with articles such as “the.” Different strokes, though.

Except for ignoring the primacy of numerals over letters, of course. That’s just _wrong_.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2019, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/9822 "2019-03-04T20:21:41Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Before, obviously. Zero is a lower value than One.

Leading zeros should always be ignored.

Also, numeric values should be sorted by value, not alphanumerically. 12 does not come before 2, in spite of starting with a lower number.

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