# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 539
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10763 "2019-04-18T13:13:22Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Barr will have no choice but to release the report, and it’ll be hard to redact it all. **I suspect Barr has told the White House that, and that his compromise with the president is to give him and his team a heads-up on what the report says so that he can have time to prepare a series of rebuttals.** And that’s exactly what has happened. The only other question is, what did they redact _after_ these conversations? > **[Justice department discussed Mueller's findings with White House, report says...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/apr/17/donald-trump-news-latest-live-mueller-report-release-thursday)** > > Democrats condemn Barr’s handling of report’s release following news it will not come until after press conference > [@asahi](#): > > But understand that we’ve already seen what we can expect – and what we can expect is that the conservatives will close their ranks even more tightly. Trump needs the extremists and the extremists need Trump. Do not expect anything in the report to change people’s minds. The only way minds are going to change is when they are living neck deep in the bullshit they’ve voted for - and even that won’t deter some people. Don’t expect Republicans and conservatives to jump the ship. They might get rattled a little by some of the disclosures, but they’ll let the dust settle and then they’re going to fight even more fiercely to defend him. The simple fact is, they don’t want a government that works for the bottom 80-90% of this country; they’re creating a government in which government ministers can rob taxpayers in plain view and corporations can get away with tax evasion and criminal fraud. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10764 "2019-04-18T13:37:48Z")
Robert Mueller sure looks different with a beard! Oh, it’s not Robert Mueller… ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10765 "2019-04-18T13:44:49Z")
I had no idea that Barr was such a weinie. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10766 "2019-04-18T14:02:22Z")
Did the AG really explain that the obstruction was justified because the president’s feelings were hurt? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10767 "2019-04-18T14:05:07Z")
At least the AG isn’t pretending to be anything other than a Trumpist all the way. Should make it more clear in the courts, when the inevitable case goes forward for Congress to see an unredacted report. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10768 "2019-04-18T14:07:27Z")
I think this is where the report will be made publicly available, in about an hour: [https://www.justice.gov/sco](https://www.justice.gov/sco) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10769 "2019-04-18T14:10:04Z")
I was in my car and only heard the audio. How did Barr maintain such clear diction without breaking liplock with the president’s anus? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10770 "2019-04-18T14:12:29Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I was in my car and only heard the audio. How did Barr maintain such clear diction without breaking liplock with the president’s anus? I thought he sounded like there was a small orange mushroom in his mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10771 "2019-04-18T14:13:34Z")
Barr sure ended that press conference quickly when there was a tough question referencing Republicans even thinking he is a toady. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10772 "2019-04-18T14:14:55Z")
I had a doc’s appt this morning, so just got here. Is it over? Did anything noteworthy come out of this “press conference”? ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10773 "2019-04-18T14:18:39Z")
He said “No collusion” several times and said no obstruction because Trump was sad about the investigation. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10774 "2019-04-18T14:20:45Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Did the AG really explain that the obstruction was justified because the president’s feelings were hurt? Barr, paraphrased: “If any obstruction occurred, it’s only because the president was frustrated by all those big meanies demanding a lawful investigation…” Even though I pretty much knew something like this was coming, the utter shamelessness of Barr’s public fellation of the President has me disgusted beyond belief. What a fucking travesty. ---
**Author:** ![VanLandry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@VanLandry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanLandry)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10775 "2019-04-18T14:25:14Z")
Liberal heads exploding all Easter weekend. Love it. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10776 "2019-04-18T14:26:43Z")
It’s for Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10777 "2019-04-18T14:26:51Z")
> [@VanLandry](#): > > Liberal heads exploding all Easter weekend. Love it. The central premise holding together the modern GOP. Not small government. Not morality and family values. Not free trade and capitalism. Pissing off the libruls. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10778 "2019-04-18T14:27:45Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I had a doc’s appt this morning, so just got here. Is it over? Did anything noteworthy come out of this “press conference”? If by “it” you mean “any reputation for honesty and fairness that Barr may have once had”, yeah, that’s over. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10779 "2019-04-18T14:29:40Z")
Based on the Barr letter, this is pretty much exactly how I expected today to go. Barr no longer presents even the slightest pretense of not acting as White House defense counsel. This press conference probably makes the Congress’s legal argument that they should see the full report much, much stronger. We’ll see in the courts. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10780 "2019-04-18T14:31:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Based on the Barr letter, this is pretty much exactly how I expected today to go. Barr no longer presents even the slightest pretense of not acting as White House defense counsel. This press conference probably makes the Congress’s legal argument that they should see the full report much, much stronger. We’ll see in the courts. Even Foxnews agrees (Chris Wallace this morning): “The Attorney General seemed almost to be acting as the counselor for the defense, for the counselor for the president, rather than the Attorney General … I suspect that Democrats’ heads on Capitol Hill were exploding.” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10781 "2019-04-18T14:35:55Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Barr, paraphrased: “If any obstruction occurred, it’s only because the president was frustrated by all those big meanies demanding a lawful investigation…” > > Even though I pretty much knew something like this was coming, the utter shamelessness of Barr’s public fellation of the President has me disgusted beyond belief. > > What a fucking travesty. So, per Trump, Barr and the GOP - If I run from the police it’s OK since I did it because I was frustrated that I might get arrested. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2019, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10782 "2019-04-18T14:36:07Z")
He’s not even acting as a White House counsel. That would imply he is defending the integrity of the Office of the President. He’s simply acting as a defense attorney for the shitbird in the Oval Office. We’ve gone so low that I was actually saying to myself this morning, “Well, at least he didn’t savage Christopher Steele’s reputation… yet!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=538) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=540)