# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 546
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10903 "2019-04-19T17:59:40Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > [T]he Special Counsel recognized that “the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference," and that, while not determinative, the absence of such evidence bears upon the President’s intent with respect to obstruction. > > Seems fair based on what I read from the report. It’s unfair in that the report continues on to say > [@Mueller Report](#): > > But the evidence does point to a range of other possible personal motives animating the President’s conduct. These include concerns that continued investigation would call into question the legitimacy of his election and potential uncertainty about whether certain events—such as advanced notice of Wikileaks’ release of hacked information or the June 9, 2016 meeting between senior campaign officials and Russians—could be seen as criminal activity by the President, his campaign, or his family. > [@steronz](#): > > I think in order for his summary to not be “essentially accurate” there would need to be some bombshell, like Mueller saying definitively that Trump obstructed justice but that declaration that being redacted out. I don’t think that’s the case. Mueller came pretty close by saying > [@Muller Report](#): > > Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. I mean it seems rather clear that Mueller’s report is saying Trump was trying to obstruct and his efforts failed because not enough people followed orders. I think it’s a pretty safe bet that had this been the investigation of some mayor, Mueller would have recommended prosecution. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10904 "2019-04-19T18:25:54Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > That’s not what Barr said. I think you may be confused. [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/19/barr-obstruction-mueller-trump-226664](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/19/barr-obstruction-mueller-trump-226664) Barr said that Mueller’s report didn’t make a conclusion on obstruction because of “difficult questions of law and fact.” This is very clearly false: > [@the linked article above](#): > > Mueller’s report detailed extraordinary efforts by Trump to abuse his power as president to undermine Mueller’s investigation. The case is so detailed that it is hard to escape the conclusion that Mueller could have indicted and convicted Trump for obstruction of justice—if he were permitted to do so. And the reason he is not permitted to do so is very clear: Department of Justice policy prohibits the indictment of a sitting president. > [@steronz](#): > > What are these “great big chunks” then? The above, as well as Barr’s misleading text that deliberately ignored that Mueller’s team “found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations.” And a lot more. There’s no reason to give this rhetorical assistance to Barr and Trump when their statements and the Barr letter were so obviously misleading at best. They were highly dishonest. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10905 "2019-04-19T18:26:30Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > It’s unfair in that the report continues on to say > > Mueller came pretty close by saying > > I mean it seems rather clear that Mueller’s report is saying Trump was trying to obstruct and his efforts failed because not enough people followed orders. I think it’s a pretty safe bet that had this been the investigation of some mayor, Mueller would have recommended prosecution. Yep. I pointed years before at not expecting much against Trump since the investigation was focused on finding how foreign countries intervened in the previous election and if there were connections with the Trump campaign. That effort was very productive in reducing the corruption in the Trump administration, something that we all should approve. If the investigation actually found very unsavory things that Trump made, I thought back then that it would be nice gravy to add to the meal. Looks then that there was also meat in the gravy, a nice add-on. 🙂 I also did compare the Muller effort to what the boss of Michael J Fox was put under. In the old comedy _Spin City_ the boss of Michael in congress was caught getting too close to a known mob boss, the character played by Fox took the blame to save the political career of the congress man. Now, I point to that because in the TV show the Representative learned his lesson and repudiates and becomes more aware of the bad agents that try to influence our politics, and while some would be unhappy that the politician was spared, the point was that corruption should be put at bay while the politician will be dealt in other ways, like at the ballot box. **The big problem here in real life is that Trump as learned nothing**. And going forward, and with less grownups in his cabinet, we can only expect more debacles in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10906 "2019-04-19T18:32:42Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/19/barr-obstruction-mueller-trump-226664](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/19/barr-obstruction-mueller-trump-226664) > > Barr said that Mueller’s report didn’t make a conclusion on obstruction because of “difficult questions of law and fact.” This is very clearly false: The actual report says: > [@](#): > > **The evidence we obtained about the President’s actions and intent presents difficult issues** that would need to be resolved if we were making a traditional prosecutorial judgment. At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. **Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards** , we are unable to reach that judgment. So the evidence (facts) present difficult issues regardless of the the fact that he’s the president (a traditional prosecutorial judgment). And “Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards”… so it is indeed both reasons, spelled out right there in the conclusion. Barr’s summary, therefore seems accurate. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The above, as well as Barr’s misleading text that deliberately ignored that Mueller’s team “found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations.” And a lot more. > > There’s no reason to give this rhetorical assistance to Barr and Trump when their statements and the Barr letter were so obviously misleading at best. They were highly dishonest. It’s a summary, and we all already knew that he committed multiple acts that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations because he did them out int he open. Sorry, I’m just not seeing the fabrication you’re claiming. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10907 "2019-04-19T18:42:43Z")
Yes, but he’s not DJT’s attorney, guy. He’s _our_ attorney and all his letter should have said was “I received the report on Date X, I will review it according to (cited) law and regulation, and then release to Congress on Date Y.” Instead, he have 2 pages+ of partial quotes and misleading commentary. Because Barr thinks his job is to represent _Trump_ and not the _People_. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10908 "2019-04-19T18:46:19Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Yes, but he’s not DJT’s attorney, guy. He’s _our_ attorney and all his letter should have said was “I received the report on Date X, I will review it according to (cited) law and regulation, and then release to Congress on Date Y.” > > Instead, he have 2 pages+ of partial quotes and misleading commentary. Because Barr thinks his job is to represent _Trump_ and not the _People_. Sure, and if the accusation is that Barr is a partisan hack because he interjected a little too much spin here or there, I’ll get on board. But what I said, which apparently caused some disagreement, was that “Barr’s summary to congress [would be] essentially accurate.” I think people were expecting some big gotchaya from the full report but to me it reads pretty much how Barr set it up. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10909 "2019-04-19T18:50:21Z")
But it wasn’t accurate, that’s the thing. He committed lies of ommission, and the conclusions in his memo are not fully supported by the Report. This thing is a road map to impeachment, and Barr acted and cited it as almost exculpatory. That’s a little more than “spin”, imho. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10910 "2019-04-19T18:52:49Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > The actual report says: > > So the evidence (facts) present difficult issues regardless of the the fact that he’s the president (a traditional prosecutorial judgment). And “Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards”… so it is indeed both reasons, spelled out right there in the conclusion. Barr’s summary, therefore seems accurate. It’s absolutely not accurate. I find your analysis highly inaccurate, and providing a ridiculous amount of benefit of the doubt to Barr. Barr was clearly trying to indicate that Mueller didn’t think there was enough evidence for an indictment, and that is very clearly not the reason for the lack of an indictment. > [@](#): > > It’s a summary, and we all already knew that he committed multiple acts that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations because he did them out int he open. Sorry, I’m just not seeing the fabrication you’re claiming. We live in different universes of what words mean, then, because this seems blindingly clear to me (and nearly every other non-Trumpian legal analyst and lawyer that I’m reading online). Oh well. We disagree; we don’t have to go on and on about it. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10911 "2019-04-19T19:04:39Z")
That’s fine. So let’s say this, if Barr were hiding something dramatic with his 4 page summary, would the political landscape change when the full report blew his deceit wide open? We’re 24 hours past the release of the full (redacted) report. Has the political landscape changed from 4 weeks ago? Will the political landscape change when congress gets the unredacted report? In terms of Trump, we all know he’s a shitbag already; the only thing we could hope to get out of the Mueller report is enough dirt for impeachment. Barr essentially let us all know that there wasn’t enough in there for impeachment. And I think he was right. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10912 "2019-04-19T19:13:55Z")
Sarah Sanders says her lie about the FBI agents wanting Comey out was a “slip of the tongue”. [https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/](https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10913 "2019-04-19T19:19:34Z")
Which itself is a lie. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10914 "2019-04-19T19:25:40Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > That’s fine. So let’s say this, if Barr were hiding something dramatic with his 4 page summary, would the political landscape change when the full report blew his deceit wide open? > > We’re 24 hours past the release of the full (redacted) report. Has the political landscape changed from 4 weeks ago? > > Will the political landscape change when congress gets the unredacted report? > In terms of Trump, we all know he’s a shitbag already; the only thing we could hope to get out of the Mueller report is enough dirt for impeachment. Barr essentially let us all know that there wasn’t enough in there for impeachment. And I think he was right. Yes, the political landscape changed because of the memo, which allowed Barr/Trump to set a narrative which existed for a month. How can this even be questioned? Remember how happy Trump was with Mueller and the team, claiming exoneration? That was a “political landscape” (PL) which lasted for a week (at best). Then the PL changed again with the walk-backs, the re-emergence of angry Trump Tweets, the worries of redaction and fears of suppression. When the Report came out, it was judged not only by its own merits, but how it measured up against the narrative set by Barr… and it is failing at supporting Barr’s narrative. Therefore, the political landscape is shifting again. You can tell this by Trump’s tweets _today_, Steronz. This is not a happy man. This is not a man who acts like he is the center of the argument which you are creating here. The unredacted memo will get released to Congress. Then the PL will shift again… as it always does. And as for impeachment, we impeached fuckin’ _Andrew Johnson_. We can surely impeach Trump, or make him impotent in the face of… and embroiled within… constant investigations. Or else we deserve to fail as a Nation. Because this is impermissible by my standards and it should be for yours. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10915 "2019-04-19T19:28:19Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sarah Sanders says her lie about the FBI agents wanting Comey out was a “slip of the tongue”. > [https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/](https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/) Reminds me of [this](http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/blm/2018/blm180210.gif) old Bloom County ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10916 "2019-04-19T19:30:40Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sarah Sanders says her lie about the FBI agents wanting Comey out was a “slip of the tongue”. > [https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/](https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/) She slips a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10917 "2019-04-19T19:35:06Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > That’s fine. So let’s say this, if Barr were hiding something dramatic with his 4 page summary, would the political landscape change when the full report blew his deceit wide open? > > We’re 24 hours past the release of the full (redacted) report. Has the political landscape changed from 4 weeks ago? > > Will the political landscape change when congress gets the unredacted report? > In terms of Trump, we all know he’s a shitbag already; the only thing we could hope to get out of the Mueller report is enough dirt for impeachment. Barr essentially let us all know that there wasn’t enough in there for impeachment. And I think he was right. Barr was doing the job he was chosen to do. He can be ignored. I was waiting for this report like my kids wait for Christmas, and I’m enjoying it like a big Godiva box. What’s the hurry? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10918 "2019-04-19T19:46:53Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Sarah Sanders says her lie about the FBI agents wanting Comey out was a “slip of the tongue”. > [https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/](https://ijr.com/sanders-slip-of-the-tongue-mueller-report/) Yep, it was. She slipped her slimy fat pink tongue right up Trump’s asshole, as always. Although I guess in some existential way, since you can’t count to 0, 0 would be a “countless number”. And I recall her also saying that Comey committed atrocities. And no one ever calls her out on that one. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10919 "2019-04-19T19:50:19Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > That’s fine. So let’s say this, if Barr were hiding something dramatic with his 4 page summary, would the political landscape change when the full report blew his deceit wide open? > > We’re 24 hours past the release of the full (redacted) report. Has the political landscape changed from 4 weeks ago? > > Will the political landscape change when congress gets the unredacted report? > In terms of Trump, we all know he’s a shitbag already; the only thing we could hope to get out of the Mueller report is enough dirt for impeachment. Barr essentially let us all know that there wasn’t enough in there for impeachment. And I think he was right. Realistically, there is by a gratuitous margin in any sane world. But due to the structure of the document and the filter that it passes through before reaching your average person, the contents that are impeachable aren’t going to be found by anyone not interested in reading past page 2. And unless the people care, the politicians don’t care. That’s what we’ve been selecting them for - lack of self-respect and personal responsibility. We just want people who go to Washington and do what we told them to do. If we tell them to ignore criminal behavior, then they march right past it and wave a “Top o’ the mornin’ to ya!” on the way past. China has been spending a fair amount of money and attention to anti-Democratic propaganda over the last decade. While I disagree with their alternative, that doesn’t mean that they’re wrong that Democracy is an ill-considered method of governance - a thing that the founders also considered to be the case. People have been carefully burying that truth over the last century, in the aim of using populism to attain power. Pro-Democracy propaganda is so ingrained in society that it’s probably impossible to change. And on our current course, we’re liable to be in the same place as Italy - hiring one person after another who is sent to prison as soon as they get out of office, and deservedly so. But, as said, any honest look at the document would make it clear that Trump would have been criminally guilty of Obstruction if the President could be indicted and, as regards Russia, that the smoke was thick in the air and any source that would cause it isn’t something you would find with someone who fulfilled the Oath of Office. Criminality is not the bar for Presidents to stay above, it’s “faithful execution of the laws, lack of foreign entanglements, and a concern for the defense of the nation and its elections.” Trump ain’t above the bar on any of that. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10920 "2019-04-19T19:58:33Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > That’s fine. So let’s say this, if Barr were hiding something dramatic with his 4 page summary, would the political landscape change when the full report blew his deceit wide open? No, not in the least, because most of us who aren’t Trumpsters were expecting that Barr’s letter was highly misleading, at best. > [@](#): > > Will the political landscape change when congress gets the unredacted report? I don’t know. I don’t even know if they’ll get an entirely unredacted report, even though they certainly should. > [@](#): > > In terms of Trump, we all know he’s a shitbag already; the only thing we could hope to get out of the Mueller report is enough dirt for impeachment. Barr essentially let us all know that there wasn’t enough in there for impeachment. And I think he was right. “Enough for impeachment” entirely depends on the views of Republican Senators. There’s almost nothing that would cause most Republican Senators to turn on Trump – they’ve proven this time and time again. But there’s more than just impeachment – and this report provides plenty to investigate for Congress. ---
**Author:** ![Skypist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skypist/32/169_2.png) [@Skypist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skypist)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10921 "2019-04-19T20:43:15Z")
The House can investigate out the wazoo, though, and it will still all come to nothing. Even if they found out that tRump calls Putin every night to get his marching orders, nothing would happen and tRump and the GOP would just cry harassment. This is such a mess and it seems that nothing can open enough Americans’ eyes to the danger of keeping in the WH someone who made illegal or questionable orders that were refused and replaced the refusers with yes-men who will not hesitate to follow ANY order. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/10922 "2019-04-19T20:51:07Z")
I don’t think throwing up our hands and saying “this is hard” is going to do it. But that’s just me. Made my first donation of the political season, to E. Warren who is calling for impeachment: > [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=545) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093.md?page=547)