# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11423 "2019-05-11T19:25:47Z")

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Relevant.

[http://memegenerator.net/img/instances/79663128.jpg](http://memegenerator.net/img/instances/79663128.jpg)

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11424 "2019-05-11T21:14:52Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Given how little of the Bible he knows, I feel safe in predicting he doesn’t really know what’s in the report either.

They could print it on fabric swatches for him. Either one.

Come to think, he might redecorate the Oval Office in Mueller Report fabric.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2019, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11425 "2019-05-11T21:53:20Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> Relevant.
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> [http://memegenerator.net/img/instances/79663128.jpg](http://memegenerator.net/img/instances/79663128.jpg)

I’m trying to remember the last time I felt so much raw hatred towards someone

congrats

you’re the new record

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11426 "2019-05-12T00:54:16Z")

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You’ll get over it.

Or die.

Don’t care either way.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11427 "2019-05-12T01:25:30Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I’m trying to remember the last time I felt so much raw hatred towards someone…

Are you really talking this way about a ‘rando’ on the internet?

I fell prey to that, after a poster here threatened me, my mother and infant daughter with disgusting acts (and kept it up for weeks even after I reported a half dozen of his posts). And you sound like this place and the people are getting to you, too.

But I just had to give it up 'cause it was corroding me.

Life’s too short, and the internet’s too shallow, man.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11428 "2019-05-12T01:42:21Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I’m trying to remember the last time I felt so much raw hatred towards someone
> 
> congrats
> 
> you’re the new record

Bruh, chill, it’s just a meme.

Go get a six pack of Naragansett.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11429 "2019-05-12T02:07:02Z")

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😕 Was it the meme? I thought it was a good [meme variation](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xzibit-yo-dawg).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11430 "2019-05-12T02:30:38Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> Relevant.
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> [http://memegenerator.net/img/instances/79663128.jpg](http://memegenerator.net/img/instances/79663128.jpg)

> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I’m trying to remember the last time I felt so much raw hatred towards someone
> 
> congrats
> 
> you’re the new record

> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> You’ll get over it.
> 
> Or die.
> 
> Don’t care either way.

Could somebody parse this for me, please? I mean, nothing about it strikes me as healthy or wholesome, but I feel completely in the dark here.

Fear of Missing Out syndrome is a harsh mistress.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11431 "2019-05-12T03:35:35Z")

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lol, wut? What’s happening here?

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**Author:** ![Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_blistering_barnacle/32/3386_2.png) [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Blistering_Barnacle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11432 "2019-05-12T13:38:24Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> lol, wut? What’s happening here?

> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Could somebody parse this for me, please? I mean, nothing about it strikes me as healthy or wholesome, but I feel completely in the dark here.
> 
> Fear of Missing Out syndrome is a harsh mistress.

Well, this dude is mad at this other dude for something they posted on the internet, but the dude who posted doesn’t care.

Really, just a typical day on the Internet. Not seen so very much around here in the past, but I guess its yet another example of the continual coarsening/erosion of discourse in our world.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11433 "2019-05-12T13:50:11Z")

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> [@Blue\_Blistering\_Barnacle](#):
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> Well, this dude is mad at this other dude for something they posted on the internet, but the dude who posted doesn’t care.
> 
> Really, just a typical day on the Internet. Not seen so very much around here in the past, but I guess its yet another example of the continual coarsening/erosion of discourse in our world.

Sure, I got that part, but what was it that inspired the anger, and particularly, why did **BPC** characterize it as exploring new horizons in hatred?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11434 "2019-05-12T13:56:24Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Sure, I got that part, but what was it that inspired the anger, and particularly, why did **BPC** characterize it as exploring new horizons in hatred?

I thought it must have a backstory (we’ve had posters follow each other through multiple threads, dredging up comments from years ago), but I looked around last night and couldn’t find any previous interaction.

**BPC** , were you maybe just joking?

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11435 "2019-05-12T15:04:38Z")

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Could it be that the anger is directed towards the guy in the photo, Xzibit, who perhaps once installed a fish tank, clothes dryer or fireplace in **BPC** ’s car in an episode of _Pimp My Ride_?

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11436 "2019-05-12T15:15:38Z")

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For the record I don’t recall any interactions previously and I just posted a silly meme variation and if that’s what sets this guy off I don’t think the internet is for him. But I was telling the truth when I said I don’t care either way.

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11437 "2019-05-13T00:16:41Z")

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Mueller won’t be appearing before the House Judiciary Committee this week. Rep. Nadler [commented](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTWxVDbBvtE&feature=youtu.be&t=50) that Mueller may prefer to come when he’s a private citizen, rather than DOJ employee, which should be “only a matter of weeks away”, because Mueller would then be “more free from the instructions of the Department of Justice.”

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11438 "2019-05-13T16:30:14Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Trump’s opinion of the Mueller report has changed yet again, and it is [now "the Bible.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt7SqlBmZRI&feature=youtu.be&t=62)"

Please can’t some less than entirely scrupulous liberal News organization print a story with the headline “Trump vows to ban publication of bible”?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11439 "2019-05-14T16:33:57Z")

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Lindsey Graham: Lawless, obstructionist piece of shit.  
"Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says Donald Trump Jr. should ignore the subpoena issued to him by the Senate Intelligence Committee.  
“If I were Donald Trump Jr.’s lawyer, I would tell him, ‘You don’t need to go back into this environment anymore,’” Graham [said in an interview with Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo on Sunday](https://www.mediaite.com/tv/lindsey-graham-offers-donald-trump-jr-legal-advice-ignore-senate-subpoena-and-call-it-a-day/). “‘You’ve been there for hours and hours and nothing being alleged here changes the outcome of the Mueller investigation.’ I would call it a day.”

> **[Sen. Lindsey Graham advises Donald Trump Jr. to ignore Senate subpoena](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/05/13/sen-lindsey-graham-advises-donald-trump-jr-to-ignore-senate-subpoena/23725450/)**
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> Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, says Donald Trump Jr. should ignore the subpoena issued to him by the Senate Intelligence Committee.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11440 "2019-05-14T16:43:49Z")

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Russian hackers “[gained access](https://apnews.com/a2af9039533b42bba0e4e04af11ecd67)to voter databases in two Florida counties ahead of the 2016 presidential election”. Makes no mention of what “gained access” means, but it seems weird to break into someone’s house, and just look around and then leave, all for no apparent benefit.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11441 "2019-05-14T19:32:51Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Russian hackers “[gained access](https://apnews.com/a2af9039533b42bba0e4e04af11ecd67)to voter databases in two Florida counties ahead of the 2016 presidential election”. Makes no mention of what “gained access” means, but it seems weird to break into someone’s house, and just look around and then leave, all for no apparent benefit.

Well, if you’re a run-of-the-mill thief, then anything you can lift of value is good - jewelry, clothes, dog food, whatever.

If you’re an information thief, then there’s only value if you don’t already have that information. If they didn’t take the voter roll, then likely they determined that they already had better information from an alternate source and it wasn’t worth uploading back to themselves - they might have just double-checked a few values to see if the data they had concurred.

Or, possibly, they did take some data and it simply didn’t leave a record.

Or, possibly, they did invalidate some voter entries and it just didn’t leave a trace.

Computers don’t necessarily leave behind a traceable record of everything that ever happened on them, and certainly their mechanisms for doing so are not inviolable.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11442 "2019-05-14T19:38:53Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> **BPC** , were you maybe just joking?

Bit late to the thread, but I’d say he was clearly joking and then the first guy took it wrong.

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