# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11963 "2019-10-24T02:16:25Z")

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I’m just a chicken little. I’m overreacting.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11964 "2019-10-24T02:21:59Z")

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> **[You Can Pick Out All Your Favorite Wingnuts as They Commit a Dangerous Breach...](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29563472/matt-gaetz-storm-scif-republicans-adam-schiff/)**
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> Matt Gaetz et al. were caught on video storming the SCIF to disrupt the impeachment inquiry, because Republicans.

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> House Republicans who tried to storm the secure area in the Capitol where Laura Cooper, the top Pentagon official on Ukraine, was testifying have effectively shut down the interview, according to a senior Democratic lawmaker…More than two dozen House Republicans, led by representative Matt Gaetz, tried to force their way into Cooper’s deposition, even though they are not members of the three committees leading the inquiry…

We have Republicans openly willing to sacrifice national security to cover up the president’s corruption. But more than that, they’ve shown that they’re willing to go to extreme lengths to defend a corrupt president.

Are you ready?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11965 "2019-10-24T02:36:17Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I hope some of them involve him sharing a bed with Martha…  
> Too soon?

Not for me. 😃 I think it’s hilarious in the ickiest way.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11966 "2019-10-24T03:02:08Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> [https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29563472/matt-gaetz-storm-scif-republicans-adam-schiff/](https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29563472/matt-gaetz-storm-scif-republicans-adam-schiff/)
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> We have Republicans openly willing to sacrifice national security to cover up the president’s corruption. But more than that, they’ve shown that they’re willing to go to extreme lengths to defend a corrupt president.
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> Are you ready?

We also have 170 plus republicans who did not storm the room.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11967 "2019-10-24T03:27:42Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> We also have 170 plus republicans who did not storm the room.

But won’t criticize those who did, or will sheepishly retire. They are the Nazi enablers. They are vermin, scum, houseflies, animals, feces.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11968 "2019-10-24T04:42:40Z")

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God, Asahi, you’re just not worth responding to.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11969 "2019-10-24T08:35:29Z")

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Oh look - yet another of Trump’s lawyers under investigation for potential illegal actions.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11970 "2019-10-24T12:58:40Z")

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I can only imagine that that’s not what they mean when they call them “criminal lawyers”…

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**Author:** ![TheCuse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thecuse/32/2854_2.png) [@TheCuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheCuse)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11971 "2019-10-24T13:05:16Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> But won’t criticize those who did, or will sheepishly retire. They are the Nazi enablers. They are vermin, scum, houseflies, animals, feces.

You need help or something.

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11972 "2019-10-24T14:27:44Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I can only imagine that that’s not what they mean when they call them “criminal lawyers”…

_Breaking Bad_ YouTube link: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMQqh1ovlM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMQqh1ovlM)

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11973 "2019-10-25T02:49:46Z")

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> [@TheCuse](#):
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> You need help or something.

Nope, I don’t.

The rest of you need to be enraged. If you’re not enraged, if you can’t see the veins bulging in your neck, there’s something wrong with you.

But go ahead, keep watching Netflix. Keep telling yourself all well be well - because I know it won’t. The Republicans are playing by an entirely different set of rules, and they have no intention of letting the Constitution, the law, or that pesky little thing called democracy get in their way.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11974 "2019-10-25T10:42:29Z")

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Ah, the “sheeple” argument. Always fresh!

It’s not that I disagree with you about what the Republicans are doing. It’s that you’re taking the worst-case scenario as an inevitability. We may eventually get there, but if we assume that we can’t do something about it beforehand, it really will be inevitable.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11975 "2019-10-25T12:33:00Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> Mr. Barr is in more trouble than is generally understood, I believe.
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> [Senator Amy Klobuchar released evidence that Barr failed to refer the whistleblower’s complaint to the Federal Election Commission as required by law](https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/10/fec-justice-department/). (Mother Jones) This was [confirmed](https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/_cache/files/1/c/1ce19f68-20b6-4b2a-b91f-6e15e37ce895/461330400703C9795A4D489132D87D2C.elw-response-to-klobuchar-ii-final.pdf) by FEC Chairwoman Ellen Weintraub. (October 18, 2019, letter from Weintraub to Klobuchar)
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> I loved Lawrence Tribe’s tweet in response:
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> [And there’s more](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower/pentagon-official-handling-ukraine-and-russia-appears-in-impeachment-inquiry-idUSKBN1X2186) (Reuters, toward the end of the article):
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> There are good reasons Barr is working hard to distance himself from Giuliani and the rest of the Ukraine mess. I’m sure visions of John Mitchell are dancing through his head in his nightly dreams.

Now Barr is going to investigate the people involved in the Meuller investigation (investigate the investigation), and anyone involved in the Ukraine situation (if they aren’t loyal Trump flunkies).

He has weaponized the DoJ to go after anyone Trump wants him to go after.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11976 "2019-10-25T12:40:43Z")

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Is he going to include in his investigation the part where the report was summarized and redacted and fairy tailed?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11977 "2019-10-25T14:18:54Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Now Barr is going to investigate the people involved in the Meuller investigation (investigate the investigation), and anyone involved in the Ukraine situation (if they aren’t loyal Trump flunkies).
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> He has weaponized the DoJ to go after anyone Trump wants him to go after.

Let’s meta this shit. I say we investigate the investigation of the investigation.

It’s investigations all the way down.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11978 "2019-10-25T14:43:37Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Let’s meta this shit. I say we investigate the investigation of the investigation.
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> It’s investigations all the way down.

[Russian dolls.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matryoshka_doll)The question is, what’s in the innermost doll?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11979 "2019-10-25T16:57:12Z")

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Eric has been the architect of this right from the day he convinced his dad to ride down the escalator. He planned everything that happened.

Because he was pissed that his dad was making him pay to use America-hating fuckstick golf courses for his charity tournaments.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11980 "2019-10-25T16:58:26Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> The question is, what’s in the innermost doll?

The thing atop his head.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11981 "2019-10-25T17:09:42Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Eric has been the architect of this right from the day he convinced his dad to ride down the escalator. He planned everything that happened.
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> Because he was pissed that his dad was making him pay to use America-hating fuckstick golf courses for his charity tournaments.

I’m thinking this was a marketing push to sell red baseball caps which went horribly, horribly wrong.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/11982 "2019-10-25T21:19:31Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> Let’s meta this shit. I say we investigate the investigation of the investigation.
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> It’s investigations all the way down.

Wouldn’t surprise me\* if they never actually come up with anything. Instead, it may be like CFSG’s ACA replacement, something they can trot out at campaign time or when they need a distraction: “You’re gonna be blown away when you see the results of our investigation into the Criminal Russia Investigation™! Any day now! Just wait!”

Unless, of course, they can dig up a [Richard Rich](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLIsqYKDqY8).

\*Disclaimer: my record on predictions is anything but stellar.

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