# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1761 "2018-01-16T22:07:19Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Bannon being out for Kushner would still be bad for Trump by extension, I would think.

Kushner? Barely knows him.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1762 "2018-01-16T23:16:04Z")

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“Sources say Bannon **told by WH not to answer questions** before House Intel Cmte about the White House and the transition. Did not assert executive privilege. Committee subpoenas him during the meeting to comply while in the hearing.”

I mean, isn’t this obstruction (bolded part)?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1763 "2018-01-16T23:22:13Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “Sources say Bannon **told by WH not to answer questions** before House Intel Cmte about the White House and the transition. Did not assert executive privilege. Committee subpoenas him during the meeting to comply while in the hearing.”
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> I mean, isn’t this obstruction (bolded part)?

It’s been nothing but interference and obstruction since “Day One” anyway.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1764 "2018-01-17T00:46:27Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> “Sources say Bannon **told by WH not to answer questions** before House Intel Cmte about the White House and the transition. Did not assert executive privilege. Committee subpoenas him during the meeting to comply while in the hearing.”
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> I mean, isn’t this obstruction (bolded part)?

BFD. I take all the House and Senate hearings exactly 0.00% seriously. They’re all totally corrupt whitewash exercises anyway. Mueller’s investigation is the only one that matters.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1765 "2018-01-17T12:53:41Z")

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I read Mueller’s interest in Bannon as a move toward an obstruction case. He wasn’t there when the most crucial decisions were made, but in a way that few others can, he can be a window into Trump’s mind, and some of Bannon’s quoted comments have been pretty candid and unfiltered. Why wouldn’t Mueller be interested in Bannon’s cooperation, especially when he knows that his relationship with Trump is at an all-time low.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1766 "2018-01-17T13:22:02Z")

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How can the White House tell Bannon what not to testify on? He doesn’t work for them. They aren’t asserting executive privilege. Doesn’t matter, the grand jury will have its asshole reamer all gassed up and ready to go for him.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1767 "2018-01-17T13:34:21Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> How can the White House tell Bannon what not to testify on? He doesn’t work for them. They aren’t asserting executive privilege. Doesn’t matter, the grand jury will have its asshole reamer all gassed up and ready to go for him.

I think they use abrasive sand.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1768 "2018-01-17T13:41:27Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> Bannon being out for Kushner would still be bad for Trump by extension, I would think.

And there go the chances for peace in the Middle East.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1769 "2018-01-17T14:23:12Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> How can the White House tell Bannon what not to testify on? He doesn’t work for them. They aren’t asserting executive privilege. Doesn’t matter, the grand jury will have its asshole reamer all gassed up and ready to go for him.

For what it’s worth, the [reporting this morning](http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/369278-bannon-plans-to-cooperate-with-russia-probe-nbc-source) is that Mueller will get to hear everything Bannon knows, which is more important that these nonsensical Congressional hearings.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1770 "2018-01-17T15:25:32Z")

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This seems very important.

> **[Newly Uncovered Russian Payments Are A Focus Of Election Investigation](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/newly-uncovered-russian-payments-are-a-focus-of-election)**
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> US authorities are poring over hundreds of newly uncovered payments from Russian diplomatic accounts. Among them are transactions by former ambassador Sergey Kislyak 10 days after the 2016 presidential election and a blocked $150,000 cash withdrawal...

Hundreds of sketchy payments from the Russian government to Americans around the election. The payments set off alarms even at the time. Our old friend Kislyak happens to feature prominently. Again.  
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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1771 "2018-01-17T15:43:31Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> This seems very important.

No doubt. Like, about the 800th very important item of this thread.

If it were me, I wouldn’t get my hopes up too high, considering that the majority of that article - the part you didn’t quote - is about a pattern of these suspicious payments over the past 10 years or so. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1772 "2018-01-17T15:46:50Z")

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I didn’t quote any of the article. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.  
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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1773 "2018-01-17T16:17:12Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I didn’t quote any of the article.

Semantics.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1774 "2018-01-17T16:23:00Z")

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“Fake words”?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1775 "2018-01-17T16:40:05Z")

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For fans of the Special Counsel: [http://www.northernsun.com/It's-Mueller-Time-TShirt-(8579).html](http://www.northernsun.com/It%27s-Mueller-Time-TShirt-%288579%29.html)

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1776 "2018-01-17T17:00:15Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Semantics.

Honesty.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1777 "2018-01-17T17:58:46Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Semantics.

So, by “the majority of that article - the part you didn’t quote”, you meant the entire article? You’re not real good at this semantics thing.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1778 "2018-01-17T18:04:28Z")

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Damn, now they’ve agreed to an interview rather than a grand jury appearance. Guess they can put the reaming machine away for a while.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1779 "2018-01-17T18:05:21Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> So, by “the majority of that article - the part you didn’t quote”, you meant the entire article? You’re not real good at this semantics thing.

No, I meant “the majority of that article - the part [FYL] didn’t quote”. You’re not real at this understanding thing.

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1780 "2018-01-17T18:10:21Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> No, I meant “the majority of that article - the part [FYL] didn’t quote”. You’re not real at this understanding thing.

And he didn’t quote a single word of it. You’re a fucking moron.

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