# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1801 "2018-01-18T00:57:51Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > No, to the contrary. I think you wrote exactly what you intended to write and omitted what you intended to omit. Readers: I would like to declare this action to be called: “Writing”. Call me crazy, but I think this definition works. You may even stretch “(writing) exactly what you intended to write and (omitting) what you intended to omit” into the definition of: “Debating”. (Even crazier still, I admit!) Thoughts? (Just be sure to include the things you want to omit, and not write what you intend to write, else you may give F-P more problems of yours to diagnose.) ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1802 "2018-01-18T01:26:55Z")
I don’t think that we should be surprised that Russia is collecting intelligence through its embassy in Washington. However, I would want to know exactly whose houses in the Washington area that contractor has been working on. Still, I think we should be collecting and reporting as much information about media, specifically social media, manipulation as possible, because that has been so effective. Has anyone else noticed an increase in snarking about baby boomers, at this time when social security and medicare are under attack? > [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > No, you’re an intellectually bankrupt loser who is falling back on semantics because you have nothing substantive to contribute. Why do you do this? You made a mistake; you indicated that a poster quoted something when s/he hadn’t. Why not just acknowledge this minor error, and go on? You seem to have two responses to having errors pointed out, doubling down or disappearing for two days, and neither advanced the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1803 "2018-01-18T02:02:38Z")
> [@j666](#): > > You seem to have two responses to having errors pointed out, doubling down or disappearing for two days, and neither advanced the conversation. On the contrary, I think one of those responses does advance the conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1804 "2018-01-18T02:10:54Z")
Well, a person with very little character and strongly partisan views tends to have a vested interest in derailing conversations about the sins of their leaders. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1805 "2018-01-18T12:39:06Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I don’t think that we should be surprised that Russia is collecting intelligence through its embassy in Washington. However, I would want to know exactly whose houses in the Washington area that contractor has been working on. > > Still, I think we should be collecting and reporting as much information about media, specifically social media, manipulation as possible, because that has been so effective. Has anyone else noticed an increase in snarking about baby boomers, at this time when social security and medicare are under attack? I don’t think Russia will be as successful with social media as they were in 2016. The media companies themselves are onto what they’re doing and taking steps to monitor suspicious behavior. Russia exploited a weakness that was glaring then but is going to be patched up by November. In 2018, Putin’s information war could become a full-on cyber attack on US voting systems. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1806 "2018-01-18T13:17:50Z")
Putin’s greater goal is to reduce the credibility of both democracy and the free media, though, reducing pressure on him and Russia by expanding the number of people in America and the rest of the West who think “Well, we’re not really any different”. He doesn’t have to keep planting covfefe on Facebook to continue to do that, even though he’s had a lot of success with it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1807 "2018-01-18T14:34:04Z")
Well, this could be interesting. The FBI is investigating whether Russians funneled money into the Trump campaign through the NRA. > **[FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump](https://amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html?__twitter_impression=true)** > > The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy. I’m genuinely intrigued and concerned that if true, this country couldn’t handle such a scandal without tearing itself to pieces. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1808 "2018-01-18T15:37:12Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > F-P, the weight of all that water you’re carrying for DJT is obviously causing physical and mental discomfort. You may wish to give it a break for a few days, let your body and mind recoup. It’s incredible how many times a guy can reuse the same line, which wasn’t particularly clever to begin with. > [@j666](#): > > Why do you do this? You made a mistake; you indicated that a poster quoted something when s/he hadn’t. Why not just acknowledge this minor error, and go on? I’ve already explained my position on this matter, including a reference in the post you quoted. Agree or disagree, my suggestion is that you “go on”. But your choice of course - everyone has their own issues. > [@](#): > > You seem to have two responses to having errors pointed out, doubling down or disappearing for two days, and neither advanced the conversation. To my recollection, I’ve never neglected to respond to a substantive point (which has not previously been addressed), but it’s true that when the conversation gets down to a really stupid level I sometimes lose interest. But if you’re referring to “disappearing for two days”, that’s probably something else. For me, this board is a diversion during work hours when I’m mostly parked at a computer anyway. I rarely post (or even look at the board) during weekends, or even weeknights. So if there’s an exchange happening on Friday afternoon, it’s very likely that I will “disappear for two days”, and if you want to delude yourself that this is in response to an “error” being pointed out, that’s fine too. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1809 "2018-01-18T17:38:18Z")
Did you omit what you wanted to omit in the above? Looks like you did… J’accuse! ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1810 "2018-01-18T17:47:07Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Did you omit what you wanted to omit in the above? Looks like you did… In the kindly spirit of helping out the feebleminded, I’ll tell you upfront that this is the case with all my posts and you can make this assumption without straining your brain to ponder the matter. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1811 "2018-01-18T18:23:33Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > In the kindly spirit of helping out the feebleminded, I’ll tell you upfront that this is the case with all my posts and you can make this assumption without straining your brain to ponder the matter. If I begin a pool on which date when one of them is killed, would it go in the Game Room? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1812 "2018-01-18T18:27:54Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > In the kindly spirit of helping out the feebleminded, I’ll tell you upfront that this is the case with all my posts and you can make this assumption without straining your brain to ponder the matter. Just want to make sure, in context with your bizarre remarks in post # 1796. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1813 "2018-01-18T18:29:26Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > It’s incredible how many times a guy can reuse the same line, which wasn’t particularly clever to begin with.I’ve already explained my position on this matter, including a reference in the post you quoted. Agree or disagree, my suggestion is that you “go on”. But your choice of course - everyone has their own issues. > > To my recollection, I’ve never neglected to respond to a substantive point (which has not previously been addressed), but it’s true that when the conversation gets down to a really stupid level I sometimes lose interest. > > But if you’re referring to “disappearing for two days”, that’s probably something else. For me, this board is a diversion during work hours when I’m mostly parked at a computer anyway. I rarely post (or even look at the board) during weekends, or even weeknights. So if there’s an exchange happening on Friday afternoon, it’s very likely that I will “disappear for two days”, and if you want to delude yourself that this is in response to an “error” being pointed out, that’s fine too. You were wrong. You won’t acknowledge it. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1814 "2018-01-18T18:38:55Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Just want to make sure, in context with your bizarre remarks in post # 1796. I noticed that you failed to understand that post from your prior comments on the subject, but I figured I’d not bother explaining it, lest you be ashamed at your own foolishness. But since you keep harping on it I’ve reconsidered a bit, and I figure you’re probably protected by a very dense coating of Dunning–Kruger anyway. So what you need to do is read the post I quoted - a sentence from post #1795 - very carefully, and consider what that post meant. Then reread my response. Then think long and hard. (Might be a different experience for you, but I recommend it.) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1815 "2018-01-18T18:49:13Z")
Awww! Isn’t he cute with his widdle insults? ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1816 "2018-01-18T18:56:56Z")
Get a room, you two. Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1817 "2018-01-18T19:16:41Z")
**FBI investigating whether Russian money went to NRA to help Trump** > [@](#): > > BY PETER STONE AND GREG GORDON January 18, 2018 05:00 AM > > WASHINGTON > The FBI is investigating whether a top Russian banker with ties to the Kremlin illegally funneled money to the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump win the presidency, two sources familiar with the matter have told McClatchy. > > FBI counterintelligence investigators have focused on the activities of Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank who is known for his close relationships with both Russian President Vladimir Putin and the NRA, the sources said. [McClatchy DC Bureau](http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article195231139.html) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1818 "2018-01-18T21:55:40Z")
Mueller is investigating the NRA’s connection to Putin. [https://www.themaven.net/beingliberal/room/fbi-investigating-whether-nra-accepted-russian-money-to-help-trump-win-cM5b3RNv7ECxNNAg5adSXg](https://www.themaven.net/beingliberal/room/fbi-investigating-whether-nra-accepted-russian-money-to-help-trump-win-cM5b3RNv7ECxNNAg5adSXg) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1819 "2018-01-18T22:38:45Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Mueller is investigating the NRA’s connection to Putin. > [The Arena Group – Where the Action is](https://www.themaven.net/beingliberal/room/fbi-investigating-whether-nra-accepted-russian-money-to-help-trump-win-cM5b3RNv7ECxNNAg5adSXg) Also according to the dossier authors, whose [House testimony](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/fusion-gps-glenn-simpson-russians-infiltrated-the-nra/article/2646367) was just released: \*“It appears the Russians, you know, infiltrated the NRA,” he said. “And there is more than one explanation for why.” “It appears that the Russian operation was designed to infiltrate conservative organizations,” he said in the November interview. “And they targeted various conservative organizations, religious and otherwise, and they seem to have made a very concerted effort to get in with the NRA.”\* ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1820 "2018-01-19T09:43:07Z")
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