# A Thread for the Mueller Investigation Results and Outcomes (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 28, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093 "2017-10-28T20:14:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1861 "2018-01-23T18:21:36Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Yes, but I would rather have him taken down for all his serious crimes. Paying off a porn star with campaign funds does not hold the same weight as bribery, graft, money laundering for drug lords, obstruction of justice, or treason.
> 
> Melania may have a different opinion.

Sorry I was referring to the SNL skit, which i placed in the wrong thread. Mueller was played by Kate McKinnon, and in another thread there were comments that itdidn’t make sense or work for some people.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1862 "2018-01-23T18:27:06Z")

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Guess it had to be her, Boris Karloff is dead.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1863 "2018-01-23T18:40:19Z")

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If John Kerry could act, he’d make a great Mueller. Same shaped head, they could make him up to be a dead ringer.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1864 "2018-01-23T18:41:35Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Melania may have a different opinion.

She’s busy considering a marriage proposal from Jeff Zucker.

😉

Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1865 "2018-01-23T19:05:44Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> If John Kerry could act, he’d make a great Mueller. Same shaped head, they could make him up to be a dead ringer.

If the movie is made soon, James Cromwell seems the obvious choice. But yeah, there is an uncanny resemblance to Kerry.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1866 "2018-01-23T19:16:38Z")

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Don’t need a movie about trump. Or a TV show (god help us). He needs to be put behind bars, removed from the spotlight, and used as a lesson on what not to allow to happen ever again.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1867 "2018-01-23T19:19:28Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Hey, I’m a guy, I know what he is looking…well, maybe we should give him the benefit of the doubt.  
> :dubious:

He’s in a room with the America-hating fuckstick and he’s not puking his guts out.

He’s forfeited any benefit of the doubt he may have been entitled to.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1868 "2018-01-23T19:32:34Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Don’t need a movie about trump. Or a TV show (god help us). He needs to be put behind bars, removed from the spotlight, and used as a lesson on what not to allow to happen ever again.

Er, if he’s removed from the spotlight how’s he going to be used as a lesson? (“Don’t be like… some guy you never heard of, because… because _reasons_, m’kay?”)

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**Author:** ![flip-68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@flip-68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flip-68)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1869 "2018-01-23T19:45:42Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> If the movie is made soon, James Cromwell seems the obvious choice. But yeah, there is an uncanny resemblance to Kerry.

i always think of the blue eagle from Sesame St/The Muppets when i see a picture of Mueller:)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1870 "2018-01-23T19:47:26Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> He’s in a room with the America-hating fuckstick and he’s not puking his guts out.
> 
> He’s forfeited any benefit of the doubt he may have been entitled to.

I don’t think trump hates America. That would be way, way too deep for him. He’s a simple minded narcissistic racist that only cares about himself. That is clear. Whatever happens to America and the rest of the world is of absolutely no concern to him. As if he ever even thinks about others, it is to laugh.

A lot like Kim Jong Un, and Putin, but about as sharp as a marble. Yep, Republicans put it in the White House to line their own pockets with zero concern for the future of the people of, or the planet. (Some are just as smart as trump, but I’m no longer going to give them a pass on this)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1871 "2018-01-23T19:51:11Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Er, if he’s removed from the spotlight how’s he going to be used as a lesson? (“Don’t be like… some guy you never heard of, because… because _reasons_, m’kay?”)

By removed from the spotlight, I mean take his cell phone away. I would be happy to see him in handcuffs in court blabbering about how he didn’t know how it was illegal.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1872 "2018-01-23T19:56:10Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Speaking of nothingburgers, Sen. Ron Johnson is  
> [quoted]  
> ([https://www.iheart.com/podcast/477-WISN-Clips-28429450/episode/sen-ron-johnson-drops-a-bombshell-28860177/](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/477-WISN-Clips-28429450/episode/sen-ron-johnson-drops-a-bombshell-28860177/)) as saying Trump-hating FBI agent Peter Strzok expressed (via text, to his mistress) some ambivalence about joining the Mueller team because “_You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern that there’s no big there there_”. (Admittedly, some further context would be useful.)

So Ron Johnson has seen evidence that Strzok joined Mueller’s team with the presumption of Trump’s innocence. That’s a relief and will surely put all this talk of bias to rest.

Thanks for posting.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1873 "2018-01-23T20:00:50Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I don’t think trump hates America. That would be way, way too deep for him. He’s a simple minded narcissistic racist that only cares about himself. That is clear. Whatever happens to America and the rest of the world is of absolutely no concern to him. As if he ever even thinks about others, it is to laugh.
> 
> …

I agree completely. I don’t think thump has the slightest idea what the United States of America is. Not a clue. And isn’t interested in finding out.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1874 "2018-01-23T20:08:44Z")

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So, where do we put Stormy Daniels related news?

[In this link (of a search)](https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&data_type=processed&committee_id=C00580100&min_date=12%2F01%2F2016&max_date=12%2F31%2F2016&disbursement_description=Rent) you’ll see, third item down, a payment to Trump Tower Commercial LLC, as recorded by the FEC and reported by the Trump campaign. Click on the arrow to the right to see the transaction details:

> [@](#):
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> Transaction information  
> Amount $130,888.33  
> Disbursement date December 21, 2016  
> Filing date   
> Description RENT  
> Purpose category ADMINISTRATIVE

And, uh, how much did Stormy get paid?

$130,000

I’m sure this is mere coincidence, just like all those contacts with Russians.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1875 "2018-01-23T20:18:20Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> So, where do we put Stormy Daniels related news?
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> [In this link (of a search)](https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&data_type=processed&committee_id=C00580100&min_date=12%2F01%2F2016&max_date=12%2F31%2F2016&disbursement_description=Rent) you’ll see, third item down, a payment to Trump Tower Commercial LLC, as recorded by the FEC and reported by the Trump campaign. Click on the arrow to the right to see the transaction details:
> 
> And, uh, how much did Stormy get paid?
> 
> $130,000
> 
> I’m sure this is mere coincidence, just like all those contacts with Russians.

> **[Home - FEC.gov](https://www.fec.gov/data/disbursements/?two_year_transaction_period=2016&data_type=processed&committee_id=C00580100&recipient_name=TRUMP%2BTOWER%2BCOMMERCIAL%2BLLC&min_date=01%2F01%2F2016&max_date=12%2F31%2F2016&disbursement_description=Rent)**
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> Find what you need to know about the federal campaign finance process. Explore legal resources, campaign finance data, help for candidates and committees, and more.

It looks like they doubled up the rent in November, so that they could put the payment into December without there being two line items.

I would be curious if there are any laws about lying on your finances.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1876 "2018-01-23T20:32:18Z")

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Whew! Perfectly normal then!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1877 "2018-01-23T20:33:44Z")

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> [@flip-68](#):
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> i always think of the blue eagle from Sesame St/The Muppets when i see a picture of Mueller:)

Now _that_ is treasonous!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1878 "2018-01-23T21:00:47Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> … and besides, correcting is more fun if you’re a bit of a snot.

Yes it is, I’m guilty of it sometimes

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1879 "2018-01-23T21:02:24Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Wasn’t there some sort of " private intelligence" agency floated at some point?

I believe there was, and maybe still is. That Blackwater asshole.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-thread-for-the-mueller-investigation-results-and-outcomes-part-1/800093/1880 "2018-01-23T21:07:43Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> …blabbering about how he didn’t know how it was illegal.

In that case, I would (and they will) argue that his efforts to interfere and obstruct and deflect are a clear demonstration that he DOES know it’s illegal.

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