# A U-Haul full of "Patriot Front" extremists pulled over on their way to Pride event

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 12, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067 "2022-06-12T15:09:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/41 "2022-06-13T03:02:07Z")

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Maybe they could start a new going concern.

_“Caught flat-footed without the necessary rabble rousers for your next violent attack? Need an instant container full of eager domestic terrorists for your next wilding on a mosque, a synagogue, your local Planned Parenthood, a Gay Pride parade or even just to annihilate the innocents shopping at your local supermarket?_

_We’ve got you covered! Order your **Box o’ Faux Jox** today!_

_They come packaged in a ubiquitous U-Haul truck, disguised as Antifa in their stylish khakis with crafty face coverings and sporting MAGA slogans. They’re pre-loaded with their own weapons, smoke bombs, and will even bring a smudgy handwritten Plan of Action™. They’re ready for anything (except maybe watchful citizens_)!\*

_Order yours today!_

\*_Results not guaranteed._

_Note: Offer void in Canada.”_

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/42 "2022-06-13T05:57:27Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Somehow this sounds more like a plot from a porn video than anything else.

Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/43 "2022-06-13T08:43:54Z")

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> [@steatopygia](#):
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> I live near where this happened. The local Facebook news pages lit up with literally thousands of comments saying this was Antifa/Feds/crisis actors.

The sheriff has doxxed all 31 arrestees, including Patriot Front founder Thomas Rousseau.

> **[Idaho sheriff releases addresses of 'Patriot Front' members accused of...](https://www.rawstory.com/patriot-front-arrests/)**
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> An Idaho sheriff has released the names and addresses of 31 purported members of a right-wing group that has been accused of planning a riot at a Pride event.At a press conference on Saturday, Coeur d’Alene Police Chief Lee White said that the 31 men...

Thoughts and prayers.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/44 "2022-06-13T09:13:42Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> It’s really just another example of the pathetic and un-American side of the republican party that tells us to watch for the left doing these terrible things but are the ones to do them.

In other words, the Republican party.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/45 "2022-06-13T11:28:28Z")

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Is that legal to release their names? Not that I care that much, just wondering.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/46 "2022-06-13T11:34:12Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Is that legal to release their names?

I don’t see why it wouldn’t be - the names of arrestees are a matter of public record, and the public has the right to know who’s being incarcerated. I’m more surprised that they released their home addresses.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/47 "2022-06-13T12:05:34Z")

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Most rental trucks that I have dealt with had latches on the rear door that looked something like this:

[![](https://www.innomotivesolutions.com/images/stories/whiting-doors-4.jpg) ](https://www.innomotivesolutions.com/images/stories/whiting-doors-4.jpg)

They have interlocks to prevent them from being accidentally opened or closed. But that is some serious hardware, and there is no way to open them from the inside.

I would never in a million years allow myself to be enclosed in a truck with one of those latches, even if it was my dear old mother on the outside. (Well, mainly because I doubt my mother would be able to figure out how to undo the interlocks.)

If these Patriot Front idiots allowed some of their brothers to lock them inside a truck like this, they are clearly too stupid to breathe. Unfortunately, someone opened the door before they all stopped breathing.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/48 "2022-06-13T12:29:30Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> > We’ve been in the 220’s to 230’s membership rut for nearly a full year”.
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> [**SOURCE**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Front#Leaked_online_chats)
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> Things are tough all over …

That’s actually the best part of it. These jackasses had to import people from all over the country, to even get 31 of them in the back of this van. Meanwhile, I heard the Pride event had about a thousand people there, and I’m betting they’re mostly local.

As much press as these jackasses get, when push comes to shove, they’re a tiny minority of people.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/49 "2022-06-13T12:36:31Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The sheriff has doxxed all 31 arrestees, including Patriot Front founder Thomas Rousseau.

Reports also indicate those 31 men are actually members of Antifa on a false flag mission. So they must have been infiltrating the Patriot Front to bring them down. Wait until their friends find out about this.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/50 "2022-06-13T13:02:28Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Reports also indicate those 31 men are actually members of Antifa on a false flag mission. So they must have been infiltrating the Patriot Front to bring them down. Wait until their friends find out about this.

Wouldnt that false flag have been more effective if successful?

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> Is that legal to release their names? Not that I care that much, just wondering.

Of course it’s legal. Anytime criminal charges are brought, it’s a matter of public record unless the defendant is a juvenile. This is nothing new.

Even if the sheriff hadn’t released the names, all the media had to do was go down to the Kootenai County Sheriff’s Office and asked for them.

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**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/52 "2022-06-13T13:10:37Z")

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My local newspaper (back in the days when newspapers weren’t on their last legs) had a section every day listing the names of everyone who had been arrested that day. It wasn’t a prominent section, you have to specifically look for it, but it was there.

I’ve always assumed that most newspapers do the same.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/53 "2022-06-13T13:11:04Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Reports also indicate those 31 men are actually members of Antifa on a false flag mission. So they must have been infiltrating the Patriot Front to bring them down.

So, given that the founder of the “movement” was there and arrested as well, does that mean that the whole Patriot Front is false-flag? The cognitive dissonance is strong with the Alt-Right blog/social media-sphere.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/54 "2022-06-13T13:22:05Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> So, given that the founder of the “movement” was there and arrested as well, does that mean that the whole Patriot Front is false-flag?

Indeed, those Antifa sure ar dum. Some of them were the same Antifa who marched in Charlottesville.

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> The cognitive dissonance is strong with the Alt-Right blog/social media-sphere.

Very much so. I’m starting to think that this is the primary characteristic of the Trumpists. It’s not racism. hatred, love of guns or love of Trump, opposition to anyone who isn’t cis, heterosexual, and white, and other such bigotry. It’s their inability to change their mind once they’ve made a decision, no matter how much evidence comes to light that their conclusion could be wrong.

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The sheriff publicizing the names and addresses was probably the best way to head off any stupid inquiries about it being a false flag operation.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/57 "2022-06-13T14:23:24Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> The sheriff publicizing the names and addresses was probably the best way to head off any stupid inquiries about it being a false flag operation. -

It’s amazing how they were all recruited at birth.  
😉

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/58 "2022-06-13T14:35:49Z")

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> [@MrAtoz](#):
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> My local newspaper (back in the days when newspapers weren’t on their last legs) had a section every day listing the names of everyone who had been arrested that day. It wasn’t a prominent section, you have to specifically look for it, but it was there.

My local paper has stopped posting this information on their website, as have many other papers around the country. This is because it’s usually scraped automatically from public records and provided without context. And while these people aren’t necessarily guilty, having your name and picture plastered into a “mugshots” gallery absolutely makes you look guilty.

There are also issues about reinforcing systemic biases. We know that a black person is more likely to be arrested for a given crime than a white person, and that’s reflected in these mugshots galleries.

Still, it is public information.

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**Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-u-haul-full-of-patriot-front-extremists-pulled-over-on-their-way-to-pride-event/966067/59 "2022-06-13T14:38:21Z")

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For those who want to meet The Boys … here they be:

> **[Sheriff's Office releases names of 31 Patriot Front members arrested in...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/jun/12/sheriffs-office-releases-names-of-31-patriot-front/)**
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> The Kootenai County Sheriff's Office released the names of 31 Patriot Front members who were arrested on Saturday. All of them had bonded out by Sunday, the Sheriff's Office reported. The men were from multiple states outside of the Northwest. 

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Conservative boards are loaded with speculation that these guys were FBI plants because of their physical appearance.

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