# A very subltle fuck you

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2018, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651 "2018-02-27T03:27:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/61 "2018-02-27T17:44:23Z")

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Bad thread title. It wasn’t subtle at all.

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**Author:** ![somepumpkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@somepumpkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/somepumpkin)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/62 "2018-02-27T17:51:44Z")

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Sorry for the ranting. If it’s any consolation, i’m paying for it. , I’m still in bed, hung-over. At least i don’t have to go to the office today 😛

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/63 "2018-02-27T17:56:26Z")

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From one who lost their first real job a week before Christmas and tried suicide via sleeping pill OD the following Easter: hang in there.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/64 "2018-02-27T18:19:27Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Umm, you did see where he said “kind and caring”, right?

Naaa, he said; _there’s a handful of truly great and wonderful people_, while pointing at me. I saw it.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/65 "2018-02-27T18:23:17Z")

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Hey everyone, I just showed up and wha- happened?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/66 "2018-02-27T18:24:56Z")

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Are you in the Greensboro area? I wouldn’t mind finding where you got that blunt.

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/67 "2018-02-27T19:16:16Z")

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**shunpiker,** I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt because you haven’t struck me as an asshat prior to that thread, but you really came off badly in it. You shamed an abused young woman who was empowering herself by showing no one else controlled what she did with her body and cloaked it in patronizing concern for her. You can blame everyone else and call us assholes for responding negatively, but that’s certainly what it appeared you were doing.

I am sorry you lost your job and I hope you find another one soon. I also hope you’re not suffering too much today. Hang in there.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/68 "2018-02-27T19:39:53Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Hey everyone, I just showed up and wha- happened?

Did you ever see a drunk who thinks he can dance, and wants to prove it on the dance floor? Funny shit right there.

Only this drunk did it with an OP full of bad words put together with an occasional noun.

Then he called me a great and wonderful leader. So I like him now too.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/69 "2018-02-27T19:47:59Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Are you in the Greensboro area? I wouldn’t mind finding where you got that blunt.

Hey, take that shit to the Marketplace forum where it properly belongs.

_hands OP a glass of water_

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/70 "2018-02-27T22:50:24Z")

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> [@somepumpkin](#):
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> Lost my job today.

Where did you see it last?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/71 "2018-02-27T23:49:01Z")

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N/m

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/72 "2018-02-28T15:17:36Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> In the immortal words of Lucy Van Pelt, “I love humanity, it’s _people_ I can’t stand!”

Nitpick: Linus; “mankind”.

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**Author:** ![Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeke_N.Destroi)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/73 "2018-02-28T15:20:21Z")

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The thing is that the OP is perfectly right. I don’t say that the regressive left comprises the majority of members here but they ate the most vocal and strident. And they, who would be the first to condemn bullying behavior, are the first to engage in piling on and bullying. And they do so proudly.

See the thing is that, around here, philosophical agreement is not enough. Agreement on objectives is not enough. No, you must agree with the regressive left on every nuance of their opinion or you will be pilloried. I have been called racist (because I believe that words are just sounds and outlawing a sound only increases it’s power.) I have been called transphobic (utterly bullshit term) because I believe it is a mental illness.

The fact that I believe transpeople should have access to the medical needs of their condition- up to and including full transition - and they should have absolute full-protection under the law and that fucking with trans-folk is abominable is utterly irrelevant.

The mods support this both tacitly and explicitly. An example, [fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) that seems pretty fucking clear-cut and yet there is still a pit thread entitled, “Fuck you **Drad Dog** ” seems to me that’s a pretty obvious violation of a very clear rule. But it’s okay because he isn’t one of the cool kids. But I’ll bet a gillion dollars that had I made a pit-thread called, "Fuck you **Una Person** I’d be busted as soon as I hit enter.

Christ, a couple of weeks ago I drew a week long suspension for… who fucking knows? The notice I got said, “no specified reason.” I got no PM announcing it to me (standard procedure) nor was there an announcement on ATMB (standard procedure).  
I also drew a suspension for “threatening” a poster by saying that if they had said the same thing in the past, in person, they’d have gotten a smack. Not, “I want to hit you”, not, “I’m going to hit you.” But rather, had you travelled the thousands of miles to get to my town and said that to my face you’d get a smack. There is precisely zero accepted definitions of threat that would apply to that statement.

Whether you all like to admit it or not this place is well on its way to becoming nothing but the regressive left proudly smarming over shutting up anyone who disagrees through numbers, verbal violence and capriciously applied “rules.”

I know I’m going to get slammed for this post (by the three people that actually read and the multitudes that just skim a line and then blow their wad.) I know this and I don’t care. I’ve figured out that if I’m to avoid banning I must either agree with positions that I don’t really support (trolling - but it’s for justice so it would be okay) or shut-up entirely.

I’m okay with that. I’ll get banned sooner or later and I’ll feel significantly less loss than I would have 5 years ago.

I guess establishing chill over dissent constitutes “fighting ignorance.” The hallmark of the regressive left.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/74 "2018-02-28T16:11:50Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Subtlety fail.

Subletly, too.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/75 "2018-02-28T16:38:13Z")

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> [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](#):
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> The thing is that the OP is perfectly right. I don’t say that the regressive left comprises the majority of members here but they ate the most vocal and strident.

And they were delicious!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/76 "2018-02-28T16:59:11Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Nitpick: Linus; “mankind”.

Thanks for the correction. That’s what I get for relying on memory!

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/77 "2018-02-28T17:53:49Z")

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> [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](#):
>
> The thing is that the OP is perfectly right. I don’t say that the regressive left comprises the majority of members here but they ate the most vocal and strident. And they, who would be the first to condemn bullying behavior, are the first to engage in piling on and bullying. And they do so proudly.
> 
> See the thing is that, around here, philosophical agreement is not enough. Agreement on objectives is not enough. No, you must agree with the regressive left on every nuance of their opinion or you will be pilloried. I have been called racist (because I believe that words are just sounds and outlawing a sound only increases it’s power.) I have been called transphobic (utterly bullshit term) because I believe it is a mental illness.
> 
> The fact that I believe transpeople should have access to the medical needs of their condition- up to and including full transition - and they should have absolute full-protection under the law and that fucking with trans-folk is abominable is utterly irrelevant.
> 
> The mods support this both tacitly and explicitly. An example, [fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) that seems pretty fucking clear-cut and yet there is still a pit thread entitled, “Fuck you **Drad Dog** ” seems to me that’s a pretty obvious violation of a very clear rule. But it’s okay because he isn’t one of the cool kids. But I’ll bet a gillion dollars that had I made a pit-thread called, "Fuck you **Una Person** I’d be busted as soon as I hit enter.
> 
> Christ, a couple of weeks ago I drew a week long suspension for… who fucking knows? The notice I got said, “no specified reason.” I got no PM announcing it to me (standard procedure) nor was there an announcement on ATMB (standard procedure).  
> I also drew a suspension for “threatening” a poster by saying that if they had said the same thing in the past, in person, they’d have gotten a smack. Not, “I want to hit you”, not, “I’m going to hit you.” But rather, had you travelled the thousands of miles to get to my town and said that to my face you’d get a smack. There is precisely zero accepted definitions of threat that would apply to that statement.
> 
> Whether you all like to admit it or not this place is well on its way to becoming nothing but the regressive left proudly smarming over shutting up anyone who disagrees through numbers, verbal violence and capriciously applied “rules.”
> 
> I know I’m going to get slammed for this post (by the three people that actually read and the multitudes that just skim a line and then blow their wad.) I know this and I don’t care. I’ve figured out that if I’m to avoid banning I must either agree with positions that I don’t really support (trolling - but it’s for justice so it would be okay) or shut-up entirely.
> 
> I’m okay with that. I’ll get banned sooner or later and I’ll feel significantly less loss than I would have 5 years ago.
> 
> I guess establishing chill over dissent constitutes “fighting ignorance.” The hallmark of the regressive left.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/78 "2018-02-28T18:09:29Z")

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> [@somepumpkin](#):
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> Sorry for the ranting. If it’s any consolation, i’m paying for it. , I’m still in bed, hung-over. At least i don’t have to go to the office today 😛

One big lesson I’ve learned on this board is that one can start a thread in the Pit praising the cuteness of puppies and kittens, and will wind up whimpering in a corner and sucking his thumb. You really have to have your shit together before even considering a Pit thread, and even then are likely to have your ass handed to you, often for no real reason other than “it’s the Pit”.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/79 "2018-02-28T19:46:07Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Subletly, too.

Post 26 too sub(l)tle for ya?  
😛

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**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-subltle-fuck-you/809651/80 "2018-02-28T19:52:14Z")

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> [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](#):
>
> The thing is that the OP is perfectly right. I don’t say that the regressive left comprises the majority of members here but they ate the most vocal and strident. And they, who would be the first to condemn bullying behavior, are the first to engage in piling on and bullying. And they do so proudly.
> 
> See the thing is that, around here, philosophical agreement is not enough. Agreement on objectives is not enough. No, you must agree with the regressive left on every nuance of their opinion or you will be pilloried. I have been called racist (because I believe that words are just sounds and outlawing a sound only increases it’s power.) I have been called transphobic (utterly bullshit term) because I believe it is a mental illness.
> 
> The fact that I believe transpeople should have access to the medical needs of their condition- up to and including full transition - and they should have absolute full-protection under the law and that fucking with trans-folk is abominable is utterly irrelevant.
> 
> The mods support this both tacitly and explicitly. An example, [fuck you and variants, e.g., go fuck yourself, fuck off and die](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858) that seems pretty fucking clear-cut and yet there is still a pit thread entitled, “Fuck you **Drad Dog** ” seems to me that’s a pretty obvious violation of a very clear rule. But it’s okay because he isn’t one of the cool kids. But I’ll bet a gillion dollars that had I made a pit-thread called, "Fuck you **Una Person** I’d be busted as soon as I hit enter.
> 
> Christ, a couple of weeks ago I drew a week long suspension for… who fucking knows? The notice I got said, “no specified reason.” I got no PM announcing it to me (standard procedure) nor was there an announcement on ATMB (standard procedure).  
> I also drew a suspension for “threatening” a poster by saying that if they had said the same thing in the past, in person, they’d have gotten a smack. Not, “I want to hit you”, not, “I’m going to hit you.” But rather, had you travelled the thousands of miles to get to my town and said that to my face you’d get a smack. There is precisely zero accepted definitions of threat that would apply to that statement.
> 
> Whether you all like to admit it or not this place is well on its way to becoming nothing but the regressive left proudly smarming over shutting up anyone who disagrees through numbers, verbal violence and capriciously applied “rules.”
> 
> I know I’m going to get slammed for this post (by the three people that actually read and the multitudes that just skim a line and then blow their wad.) I know this and I don’t care. I’ve figured out that if I’m to avoid banning I must either agree with positions that I don’t really support (trolling - but it’s for justice so it would be okay) or shut-up entirely.
> 
> I’m okay with that. I’ll get banned sooner or later and I’ll feel significantly less loss than I would have 5 years ago.
> 
> I guess establishing chill over dissent constitutes “fighting ignorance.” The hallmark of the regressive left.

You don’t even know what this is about, do you?

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