# "A Very Venture Halloween" - 28/10/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 27, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064 "2012-10-27T19:36:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/1 "2012-10-27T19:36:46Z")
There is a very special Halloween-themed Venture Bros. episode airing on Cartoon Network tomorrow night at 11:30 P.M. You have been alerted. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/2 "2012-10-27T19:37:21Z")
Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/3 "2012-10-29T00:32:17Z")
I’m giving this a bump up, since the Dope has so many Venture Bros. fans who would absolutely hate themselves if they missed it. It’s on tonight. Cartoon Network. Go, Team Venture! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/4 "2012-10-29T00:59:49Z")
10:30 CST. Venture Home News (Facebook) said; “The dead will rise. The Crow will fly. And Hank will not take any of it very well at all. Watch “A Very Venture Halloween,” TONIGHT at 11:30pm.” ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/5 "2012-10-29T01:02:28Z")
[http://video.adultswim.com/promos/the-venture-bros-a-very-venture-halloween.html](http://video.adultswim.com/promos/the-venture-bros-a-very-venture-halloween.html) ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/6 "2012-10-29T06:58:45Z")
Wasn’t the best I’ve seen, but it was transcendent\* to see it again at all. Wish we didn’t have wait two years between 13-episode seasons. - Synonyms! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ecks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bcef8e/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ecks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ecks)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/7 "2012-10-29T15:37:47Z")
I liked it, but it seemed a little scattered. Loved Emo dean, hated the manpanzee, and was creeped out by toasterhead. Byron, if that’s what she’s into, you’re better off without her. What big mysteries are still left in the Venture Brothers? Off the top of my head: Identity of Rusty’s mother Death of Jonas Venture Why does Monarch hate Rusty Anything else? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/8 "2012-10-29T15:40:36Z")
Do they actually share the same father? ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/9 "2012-10-29T16:28:59Z")
I really liked the episode. I’m curious how much of this was set up for the season. Orpheus’ speech at the end I think was meant not only to tells us where the characters are (and how they see themselves) and but also to give people a glimpse of where they are going. There’s been this subtle through-line of Pete White actually being a villain…and I think the fact that he was dressed as one of the “Sovereign’s” guises, I think might actually mean something for later. Are we ever going to see Old Ben again? Or will it be largely ignored? Hatred’s manboobs I took as being a reference to Fight Club (also reference by Dermott in the episode) but I’m not sure where they are going with that–I hope NOT to another sex change story. Doc and Jackson do like to dip into the same well multiple times though. I was wondering if they would ever to a “Thing with Two Heads” reference with Red Mantle… and it did not disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/10 "2012-10-29T17:50:58Z")
Very much enjoyed it. I kinda like the Emo Dean. Seems he’s going to grow up to be Doc Hammer. lol ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/11 "2012-10-29T18:23:50Z")
Also, so, making sure that I got the name right (I can never remember which one is Hammer and which one is Urbaniak) I of course went to Wiki. Doc has a band! Called Weep, they sound a LOT like Shallow Gravy but much funner. Currently dancing at my desk like an idiot to their cover of Rhianna’s “Shut up and Drive”. It’s awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/12 "2012-10-30T04:15:00Z")
Loved it. Man, I miss this show. I was thinking back to the early episodes, which basically centered around Doc being a putz and Brock charging in and kicking some ass, and marveling at how much the show has expanded and evolved since then. ---
**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/13 "2012-10-30T14:34:53Z")
Glad to see it back as well, but the episode was just average for me. I must be the only fan who finds Dermot to be a completely unfunny, one-note character, so more of him is not good to start with. But for my money the trick-or-treating bits (King size? No no, we’re a fun-size house.) and Tatyana & the Outrider’s surreal act (I’ll never look at toast the same way again) more than made up for it. Can’t wait for February… ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/14 "2012-10-30T16:21:52Z")
I like Dermott as the stereotypical shitty teenager. He contrasted better with the sheltered boys, but now you see actual friendship with him and Hank. I did like him more as Brock’s son though, although the Venture twist was interesting. It heaps more failure onto Rusty. One son a loser, one son either becoming a super-villain or a “normal,” and Hank being more like his bodyguard than him. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/15 "2012-10-30T17:58:18Z")
“You are the luckiest kids in the world!” King-sized candy bars for all. Enjoyed the episode, although there was too much going on for a half-hour show. The maturity with which Dean reacted to the news of being a clone makes me wonder whether the character won’t, in fact, end up in the same ballpark of total loser as his father. I agree that it’d embellish Rusty’s failure — his favored son rejecting him in favor a (more?) normal life. Ben might make an interesting alternative father figure, if he’s recurring. Was that 24 rising up with the zombies? I suppose not, 21 had his skull, didn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/16 "2012-10-30T18:26:26Z")
I liked it, and hope the show will finally deal with the boys growing up and realizing just how insane their life has been. Just a note though but is there some timeline tomfoolery going on? At the beginning it was like four years ago, three years ago… What I am wondering is if this episode took place in the modern day or before last season? Rather interesting Rusty still had the slugs on last year in show time. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/17 "2012-10-30T18:28:50Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Was that 24 rising up with the zombies? I suppose not, 21 had his skull, didn’t he? 21 buried his head in the main compound in Operation PROM. That was just a random Monarch hench. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/18 "2012-10-30T22:20:30Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Just a note though but is there some timeline tomfoolery going on? At the beginning it was like four years ago, three years ago… What I am wondering is if this episode took place in the modern day or before last season? > > Rather interesting Rusty still had the slugs on last year in show time. At this point, I’m not sure if we can reliably say what year the VB universe is in, other than almost certainly behind ours. Since it takes so long between seasons, yet at the same time their seasons start basically right after the previous one ends, they are a few years behind. I’m sure some more pedantic nerds on the internet have it down to the day, or something, but whatever. I think the whole point of the “four years ago/three years ago” etc…was just to show us how Hank and Dean failed to do anything scary…at least until this year. Oh, and I’ve read a theory that the next season will, chronologically, start _before_ this episode, so it’ll explain how/why/when Dean went Emo, and how Hatred got his tits. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/19 "2012-10-31T18:54:00Z")
> [@bouv](#): > > Oh, and I’ve read a theory that the next season will, chronologically, start _before_ this episode, so it’ll explain how/why/when Dean went Emo, and how Hatred got his tits. I kind of remember from the panel at SDCC this year that they said that was the idea. They really wanted to do a Halloween episode but the new season wouldn’t be ready in time, so they decided to make the planned Halloween episode be done as a special. Once the season was underway, we’d see where it fit in chronologically. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2012, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064/20 "2012-11-01T10:31:04Z")
Watching it a second time I noticed there was some exposition from Ben confirming what everyone should already know, namely that the brothers were cloned from two actual twins conceived the usual way(drunk and forgot a condom) by Rusty and Myra. Was this so the twins=clones of Rusty and Brock fan theory would be put to bed finally?🙂 I guess we’ve seen all their deaths already, but I always wondered if we’d ever see the first death in flashback. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-very-venture-halloween-28-10-12/639064.md?page=2)