# A Watchmen HBO TV Series... \[Open spoilers\]

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**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546 "2017-06-21T16:21:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/281 "2019-12-02T17:20:47Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> I have also read speculation that Thieu is going to help Adrian Veidt return to earth. She mentioned to Angela that her father would be back for her big day. The speculation is that Veidt may be Thieu’s father.

I did get Veidt being Trieu’s father, especially after she was so cagey about the father not being here at the moment but will be. Or could Trieu be a clone of Veidt?

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/282 "2019-12-02T18:51:37Z")

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Looking Glass is somewhere around in a Rorschach mask. And he was not caught off guard.

It now makes more sense why they wanted Angela out of the way.

Will Blake be jealous of her? He wasn’t willing to do that for her …

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**Author:** ![ebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@ebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ebb)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/283 "2019-12-03T04:22:02Z")

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I don’t think that the 7th Kavalry knows who Dr. Manhattan is, only that he’s in the area. They’ve taken Blake to use her as bait, just like Bubastis in the comic.

My money’s on the Milennium Clock wiping out everyone’s memories. The memory angle has been played too strongly throughout the series for it not to be tied into the payoff.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/284 "2019-12-03T11:39:30Z")

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One interesting theory I’ve seen floated:

The Clock will beam into everyone the memories of those who have been oppressed by colonialism (like Trieu’s mother) and racism (like Will Reeves). So instead of using fear to unify the country, Trieu’s plan is to fill the populace with righteous indignation. The same emotion that empowered Will Reeves to become Hooded Justice. And Angela to become Sister Night.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/285 "2019-12-03T17:30:54Z")

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Okay so that penultimate episode was bananas. I love this show but I want to rewind back a few episodes because I have to comment on how Looking Glass’ ex just casually plopped a puppy into an incinerator. That one stuck with me for days.

Now we know the Who, What, When, Where and Why of everything except what the heck is happening with Veidt.

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**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/286 "2019-12-03T18:47:10Z")

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We also don’t know what crashed onto that farm that Trieu wanted, and what’s up with Slippery Silver Guy. And whatever brick that Laurie metaphorically threw up into the air still needs to come down, and we don’t really know what that might be.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/287 "2019-12-03T18:51:56Z")

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I assumed that when Laurie went into that phone booth, told that joke and her car crashed down, that it was a sign that Doctor Manhattan was listening to her. But we saw in the last episode that Lady Trieu was getting all of the messages from those phone booths and Doctor Manhattan was effectively not himself. So who crashed the car down?

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/288 "2019-12-03T19:05:57Z")

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Probably Trieu. Maybe Will Reeves toying with Blake.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/289 "2019-12-04T04:16:32Z")

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Here’s some info from the comics that may play a part:

The Comedian murdered a woman in Vietnam who was carrying his child. Any chance that child survived and is Trieu?

Great episode. Throws me completely on my head trying to hold it together in my mind, but great episode.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/290 "2019-12-04T05:26:47Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Does anyone have an explanation for the elephant? Was it just the best host Lady Trieu could find, or does it have some special significance?
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> The Cal thing seems to be coming out of nowhere, I am scared we are in for another “Lost”, wherein the windy road of absurdity never went anywhere.
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> I thought the episode was good, but I am a little disappointed how quickly Blake was able to figure out everything. …
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> k

Yes, it came from the same place as the Polar bear.  
😛

Yeah, this one was 90% useless flashbacks of flashbacks and 10% moving forward.

And that’s why FBI agents never go around by themselves, except in film & TV.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/291 "2019-12-04T12:52:48Z")

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Season 1 episode 3 uses music from the movie Limitless.

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/292 "2019-12-04T12:58:54Z")

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This is what I was thinking of as soon as we saw the remote for the trap door:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTmLU9VOJlM)

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**Post date:** [December 4, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/293 "2019-12-04T15:08:14Z")

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Was going back and thinking… when Veidt was on his moon and writing (with dead clones) “Save Me D”, I thought it may have been Dr. Manhattan, but now I’m thinking Veidt was writing “Save Me Daughter”.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/294 "2019-12-09T03:05:41Z")

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Just FYI, there’s a post credits scene tonight.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/295 "2019-12-09T03:07:46Z")

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That answered a lot of questions, but not all of them. Like what was the organic form in which he stored his powers?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/296 "2019-12-09T03:13:06Z")

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This show just keeps getting better. Loved the non linear Dr. Manhattan episode. I do wonder if there was a good reason for him to be captured because it seems he’s quite ok with it. Maybe the Millennium Clock killing him takes out all the 7K?

Anyways I also loved the pun of the episode title - A God Walks Into A/bar

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/297 "2019-12-09T03:14:36Z")

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Also, what fell out of the sky in that farmer’s field? What is the clock for? How does Veigt tie into everything?

_eta_ And silver slippery storm drain guy.

Seems like more than one episode would be needed to wrap that stuff up, but everything so far seems so calculated I think it’ll play out alright.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/298 "2019-12-09T03:27:51Z")

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The episode seemed to show us that Veidt voluntarily went to Europa so when did that turn into a prison? And are Doctor Manhattan’s powers in those eggs on the kitchen floor? But then he demonstrated powers when fighting the Seventh Kavalry. And what was the whole thing with Angela thinking she introduced the idea that Judd was in the Seventh Kavalry?

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/299 "2019-12-09T03:36:03Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> And what was the whole thing with Angela thinking she introduced the idea that Judd was in the Seventh Kavalry?

Her Grandfather never heard of Judd until Angela asked her grandfather why he killed Judd. She told him from the future that Judd was Seventh Kavalry.

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**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/300 "2019-12-09T03:38:03Z")

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Angela does introduce Will to the idea Judd is 7K. She wants to know how Will knows it so when she asks, she makes sure that Will knows.

As for Europa being a prison - probably for the same reason it became dull for Dr. Manhattan. There is nothing really to do there. And he had no way of leaving. And Dr. Manhattan had amnesia so couldn’t help even if he wanted. The servants are created with so much wanting to love and serve that wanting to leave probably seems like a massive betrayal.

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