# A Watchmen HBO TV Series... \[Open spoilers\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546 "2017-06-21T16:21:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/61 "2019-07-23T18:19:47Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > That trailer gave me a headache just trying to follow along. That obnoxious sound overlay. ecch, when it on, I have to mute or FF, so I have only heard it once. HBO- making your previews obnoxious is not a way to gain viewers. ---
**Author:** ![BeagleJesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5daacb/32.png) [@BeagleJesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeagleJesus)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/62 "2019-07-23T19:24:57Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I love Regina King so I am down for it…Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk +1 To me, she will always be Brenda from 227 ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/63 "2019-07-26T14:37:47Z")
Robert Redford will play… President Robert Redford: [Robert Redford to Play President Robert Redford in HBO's Watchmen](https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/07/26/robert-redford-to-play-president-robert-redford-in-hbos-watchmen/) The series will be set in 1992. Will they digitally de-age him, as they did for Michael Douglas in _Ant-Man_ and Samuel Jackson in _Captain Marvel_? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2019, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/64 "2019-09-18T19:47:58Z")
Bumped. A new trailer is out, and the show will premiere Oct. 20: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-33JCGEGzwU) ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/65 "2019-10-05T00:34:57Z")
I saw a significant chunk of the first episode today at comicon. It has a very different feel from the movie or book (and I loved the book and rather liked the movie, actually), but I think it has potential as a show as long as you let the source material go. But, the fanboys are going to hate it. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Robert Redford will play… President Robert Redford: [Robert Redford to Play President Robert Redford in HBO's Watchmen](https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/07/26/robert-redford-to-play-president-robert-redford-in-hbos-watchmen/) > > The series will be set in 1992. Will they digitally de-age him, as they did for Michael Douglas in _Ant-Man_ and Samuel Jackson in _Captain Marvel_? It’s set in current day. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/66 "2019-10-05T02:22:35Z")
Oh, one other thing, they clearly extended it from the squid ending, not the movie ending. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/67 "2019-10-05T03:39:27Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Robert Redford will play… President Robert Redford: [Robert Redford to Play President Robert Redford in HBO's Watchmen](https://comicbook.com/dc/2019/07/26/robert-redford-to-play-president-robert-redford-in-hbos-watchmen/) > > The series will be set in 1992. Will they digitally de-age him, as they did for Michael Douglas in _Ant-Man_ and Samuel Jackson in _Captain Marvel_? It’s set in now-ish, he’s just been President for 27 years because apparently the 22nd Amendment has been removed. Also: > [@](#): > > The choice of Redford – his run for the Presidency was hinted at in a single panel of Watchmen #12 – has always been a little bit ironic in that context, since one of Redford’s career-definining roles was playing Bob Woodward in All the President’s Men. Yeah, I’ve seen you control big parts of the government, you’re not fooling anyone, Robert. HAIL HYDRA. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/68 "2019-10-05T04:18:46Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > …It’s set in current day. The next-to-last paragraph of that article says it’s set in 1992. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2019, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/69 "2019-10-05T10:27:07Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > The next-to-last paragraph of that article says it’s set in 1992. The article is incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/70 "2019-10-07T09:27:47Z")
The book suggests that the reason Moore chose Robert Redford was in order to make jokes about an old Hollywood actor with the initials RR becoming president. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/71 "2019-10-07T13:09:22Z")
The show makes clear that Redford has taken advantage of the lack of term limits put in place by Nixon in the universe. We didn’t see him in the episode they showed, but multiple references to him. Even the small Jeremy Irons scene they showed was very odd and I’m not sure what they’re doing with that character. The episode was more centered around Regina King’s character, who appears to be the real star of the show. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/72 "2019-10-07T13:19:35Z")
ivism and nihilism for the minute, what I want to know is, what does Moore think about his characters? Rorschach is just this side of a Nazi (he reads that extreme right wing rag that openly mocks Jews and others), the Comedian murdered Woodward and Bernstein, and of course Veidt murdered millions of people for “the greater good” with the only person who could stop him deciding to take a powder (Manhattan). The ostensibly “good” superhero is literally and figuratively impotent. Does the author agree with these characters? The “bad guys” win in the end \*, as far as my interpretation goes. \*nothing ever really ends. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/73 "2019-10-07T13:35:17Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > ivism and nihilism for the minute, I have no idea where my beginning went. It should read: Ignoring moral relativism and nihilism for the minute ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/74 "2019-10-07T14:27:51Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > what I want to know is, what does Moore think about his characters? Alan Moore is kind of a weirdo who professes odd beliefs. I like a lot of his work, but I’ve learned to put my own interpretation on it rather than look to explanations from him. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/75 "2019-10-07T16:43:16Z")
At the panel, Lindeloff specifically said that Moore instructed him not to use his name, and he praised him namelessly. ---
**Author:** ![Stowed\_Bob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stowed_bob/32/3312_2.png) [@Stowed\_Bob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stowed_Bob)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/76 "2019-10-07T18:54:47Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > Even the small Jeremy Irons scene they showed was very odd and I’m not sure what they’re doing with that character. Jeremy Irons may be Ozymandias. Note him riding horseback past a skull and crossbones flag. It could be a callback to Tales of the Black Freighter pirate illustrated book from the comics, whose story was a parallel to Ozymandias. Also, Jeremy’s attire is very aristrocratic, much like Veidt wore. As for what they’re doing with him, the Calvary (the people in Rorschach masks) may be working to expose the deception Ozymandias perpetrated in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/77 "2019-10-07T19:34:08Z")
He’s definitely Ozymadias. They winked and nodded about that. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/78 "2019-10-08T17:52:47Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Alan Moore is kind of a weirdo who professes odd beliefs. I like a lot of his work, but I’ve learned to put my own interpretation on it rather than look to explanations from him. Yeah, one of his books is kiddie porn lite, so very much a weirdo. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/79 "2019-10-08T18:06:50Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Alan Moore is kind of a weirdo who professes odd beliefs. I think he hates his audience, too. Not that would be a real hindrance to enjoying his work, just something to keep in mind. Especially if you start looking to the Comedian for moral guidance. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546/80 "2019-10-15T19:00:10Z")
Was going to start a new thread but will just add to this one. It is getting great reviews. One TV reviewer I follow on Twitter said it was the best show of the new season (and maybe one of the best all time they added). [Here](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-reviews/watchmen-hbo-review-897290/) is another positive one. I was cautiously optimistic but now I think I am excited. It helps that I just read Doomsday Clock (DC’s Watchmen/DCU crossover) which was not bad. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-watchmen-hbo-tv-series-open-spoilers/789546.md?page=5)