# A wild hair or a wild hare? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 6, 2001, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861 "2001-11-06T21:17:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/1 "2001-11-06T21:17:13Z")
Around here, (in central Indiana) “a wild hare (or hair)” is an expression that means an impulsive, crazy pursuit, such as driving an hour each way to get a bowl of spicy stew at the Mousetrap or leaving work in the middle of 3rd shift to go fishing 80 miles away. Anyway, there are two ways to say it. Either “he went off on a wild hare,” which suggests suddenly following a long-eared critter, or “he got a wild hair up his ass,” which suggests leaping up from personal discomfort. Is either of these versions “correct?” Does one predate the other? Do folks even say that in your neck of the woods? ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/2 "2001-11-06T21:53:42Z")
Well, not much luck on Google, Merriam Webster, Roger’s Profanisaurus (but it is a fun site to check!), the Word Detective, or the Maven’s Word of the Day. I tried [Bartleby.com](http://Bartleby.com) and found references to “mad as a marsh (or march) hare”, but the link between that and “wild hare” are clear from that site. Then there’s the reggae club near Wrigley Field in Chicago, The Wild Hare, but that’s another story… I always assumed it was “Wild Hair” - as in wild hair up his ass - meaning acting all fidgety, etc. as though you had a wild…well, you get the idea, but I couldn’t track down a reference. That’s all for now - oh, I didn’t search the SDMB yet, 'cuz it’s so darn slow this time of day… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stafford_cripps/32/7167_2.png) [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stafford_Cripps)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/3 "2001-11-06T22:03:37Z")
“Hare” exists as a verb, such as to hare around; to run around like a hare. Perhaps the Indiana expression “off on a wild hare” is a case of a noun being made from a verb that was made from a noun, if you get my drift. ---
**Author:** ![lurker\_b](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@lurker\_b](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurker_b)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/4 "2001-11-06T23:01:13Z")
I always thought the phrase was wild TEAR. [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) gives one definition of tear as to move with heedless speed; rush headlong. It also has a slang definition of a carousal; a spree. Too, it lists the phrase tear around and defines that as to move about in excited, often angry haste. To lead a wild life. I’ve never heard the phrase wild hair or hare. Is it possible that this phrase was misheard? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stafford_cripps/32/7167_2.png) [@The\_Stafford\_Cripps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stafford_Cripps)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2001, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/5 "2001-11-06T23:32:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lurker b \* > \*\*I always thought the phrase was wild TEAR. [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) gives one definition of tear as to move with heedless speed; rush headlong. It also has a slang definition of a carousal; a spree. Too, it lists the phrase tear around and defines that as to move about in excited, often angry haste. To lead a wild life. I’ve never heard the phrase wild hair or hare. Is it possible that this phrase was misheard? \*\* I hadn’t thought of that, but Chambers English Dictionary does give hare as a verb with a similar meaning. Given that the two words also sound similar, they’re probably used interchangably. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/6 "2001-11-07T03:54:03Z")
I’d be surprised if there is any in-print reference to a phrase other than “wild hair.” My Ligher cites from 1952, Leon Uris, _Battle Cry_ [ref.to WWII]: Jesus, he sure got a wild hair up him. It was no doubt a phrase not uncommon in WWII. Just how much before that is speculative. I seriously doubt any reference to a hare. ---
**Author:** ![judyann449](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecc23a/32.png) [@judyann449](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/judyann449)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/7 "2015-07-23T23:41:30Z")
I thought it was wild hair, too. That’s why I Googled wild hare - which led me to this forum. Found this in a novel: "I just kept thinking Cam had caught a wild hare and would turn up again anytime. " From Greywalker by Kat Richardson ---
**Author:** ![jebert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ec9cab/32.png) [@jebert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jebert)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/8 "2015-07-24T20:57:33Z")
I have always heard it as “wild hair (up his ass).” That’s from a couple of states west of Indiana. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/9 "2015-07-24T21:28:38Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > I always assumed it was “Wild Hair” - as in wild hair up his ass - meaning acting all fidgety, etc. as though you had a wild…well, you get the idea, This. Welcome, judyann449. Prepare to be inundated with undead jokes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/10 "2015-07-25T22:45:56Z")
“across” not “up” ---
**Author:** ![JNBrady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@JNBrady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JNBrady)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/11 "2015-09-30T16:31:51Z")
I was raised in N. Florida in the 1960s & 1970s, and distinctly recall “wild hare” being used in the phrase “going off on a wild hare” or “going off on a wild hare expedition”. This could well be a reference to Alice in Wonderland’s following the White Rabbit We used it to refer to going on impulsive jaunts just for the heck of it. ---
**Author:** ![SpyOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SpyOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpyOne)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/12 "2015-10-01T01:48:10Z")
> [@lurker\_b](#): > > I always thought the phrase was wild TEAR. [Dictionary.com](http://Dictionary.com) gives one definition of tear as to move with heedless speed; rush headlong. It also has a slang definition of a carousal; a spree. Too, it lists the phrase tear around and defines that as to move about in excited, often angry haste. To lead a wild life. I’ve never heard the phrase wild hair or hare. Is it possible that this phrase was misheard? This. My father, who hailed from Central New York State (and whose grandfather moved from Minnesota in the late 1800s), used the phrases “go off on a wild tear” and “had a wild hair up his ass”. "To be clear, that’s the pronunciation of “tear” that rhymes with “hare”, not the one that rhymes with “deer”. By his usage, to go off on a wild tear was to engage in frenzied activity, while having a wild hair up your ass was to engage in work to no obvious purpose. Like ordering a vacuum cleaner, extra bags, and a bunch of cleaning supplies from Amazon might be a wild tear, but reading 15 different webpages on ancient roman shipbuilding is more likely the result of a wild hair. Since WWII is mentioned, my father was 10 when it ended, so he may have picked the phrase up from young men when he was a teenager. ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/13 "2015-10-01T01:57:27Z")
Are you sure it’s not a wild tare? I heard that insane asylums used to have problems with their scales so… ---
**Author:** ![simply\_cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8c91f0/32.png) [@simply\_cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simply_cats)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/14 "2015-10-02T01:48:46Z")
All my life, it’s been “wild hair.” In my innocence, I always just left it at that, but I tend to use it in the more “wild hair up his ass” way. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/15 "2015-10-02T02:29:49Z")
> [@simply\_cats](#): > > All my life, it’s been “wild hair.” In my innocence, I always just left it at that, but I tend to use it in the more “wild hair up his ass” way. Michigander here. I agree with the above. ---
**Author:** ![Anaglyph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Anaglyph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaglyph)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/16 "2015-10-02T10:35:21Z")
I only knew the expression as “chasing a wild hare” - as going into a seemingly unmotivated zig-zag course towards your goal, rather than in a straight line. e.g. “[A Wild Hare (1940)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033260/)” ---
**Author:** ![Uncle\_Genie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d2c977/32.png) [@Uncle\_Genie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Genie)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/17 "2015-10-21T22:49:12Z")
A Baby Boomer from Toledo, Ohio, I’d always heard this as “getting (or having) a wild hair up (his) ass” among our elders, which my contemporaries and I shortened to “getting a wild hair.” The expression described someone abruptly pursuing an odd or risky course without apparent forethought: _He got this wild hair and, next thing ya’ know, he’s a marine._ The precipitous action was analogous to the unseemly behaviors one might use attempting to relieve a sudden rectal itch. I considered “wild hare” in this idiom to be one more of the homophone variances, e.g., butt naked for buck naked, which seem more common as they’re shared on the internet. Then again, language is dynamic. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/18 "2015-10-21T23:42:09Z")
> [@Anaglyph](#): > > I only knew the expression as “chasing a wild hare” - as going into a seemingly unmotivated zig-zag course towards your goal, rather than in a straight line. e.g. “[A Wild Hare (1940)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0033260/)” Is that pretty obviously a pun on the usual “wild hair”? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/19 "2015-10-22T21:33:42Z")
I know the expression “wild hair up his ass” from my mom who is from Ohio. So maybe it’s a Midwest thing. I live in the Pacific Northwest and haven’t heard it often from anyone else. The context she uses it in is identical to what others have mentioned. I’ve also heard “go off on a wild tear” from various sources over the years, and it does mean to engage in frenetic activity. I think these are separate terms that only bear a phonetic similarity. ---
**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861/20 "2015-10-23T07:12:12Z")
Could this expression be related to [“mad as a March hare”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_as_a_March_hare)? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-wild-hair-or-a-wild-hare/91861.md?page=2)