# A Word, Shodan

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 18, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537 "2009-09-18T02:44:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/121 "2009-09-19T12:00:18Z")

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Shodan’s girlfriend speaks! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/122 "2009-09-19T12:06:11Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> Shodan’s girlfriend speaks! 🙂

thank you, he’s made me so happy, sorry to make you jealous

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/123 "2009-09-19T12:50:29Z")

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> [@Polycarp](#):
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> Now, the next step is – prove it. Match person to crime. Indict. Try. Prove to the standards of American criminal-law jurisprudence. Convict. And that’s not quite as easy as saying, yeah, they sure did do it.

Yep. I would whole-heartedly support such action, though.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/124 "2009-09-19T12:53:03Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> You mean he hasn’t been? You just wait till the War of Northern Aggression is over!

McClellan is going to capture Richmond any day now.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/125 "2009-09-19T14:18:51Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> Is Shodan currently raping (and posting footage of ) several memebers of your families?

Well, he is a fan of Glenn Beck…

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/126 "2009-09-19T16:10:32Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> No, but trying to remove them from an office they’re no longer holding is. (That’s what “impeachment” means, doesn’t it?) I don’t think anyone is saying you’re not going to put Bush on trial. Just that I don’t think you can impeach him anymore.

Actually, no. Impeachment means that the House of Representatives has determined that there is sufficient cause for the Senate to vote on whether to remove the president from office. You can think of impeachment as sort of a grand jury idictment, and then the Senate proceedings as a trial.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/127 "2009-09-19T16:31:04Z")

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Even so, if that’s the case, it’d be pointless, would it not?

You’re better off just indicting him.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/128 "2009-09-19T17:12:26Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Well, he is a fan of Glenn Beck…

Sure, but, at most, that fact alone means he might enjoy watching a rape:p

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**Author:** ![Mapache](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Mapache](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mapache)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/129 "2009-09-19T19:51:50Z")

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I have wondered for a long time if Shodan is really a shodan (First degree black belt in any number of Japanese martial arts.)  
Most senseis are quite serious about teaching their students about avoiding aggression- my son’s Shitoryu class ends with a recitation of various aphorisms, like “Refrain from violent behaviour” and something that translates more or less to “Don’t be a jerk”. Shodan’s behaviour on this board reminds me of the sort of new black belt that goes into a bar, elbows a client aside, and says “Quit crowdin’ me, asshole.”  
If he behaves like this in real life, I imagine some day he’ll try it on a Uechiryu godan or someone of that level, and have his head handed to him. If he only behaves like this on message boards, then he’s a coward, and I hope his sensei is ashamed of him.  
Now maybe his sensei patterns himelf on the Bad Guy from the Karate Kid movies; in thirty years around the martial arts I never met one like that but perhaps they exist out there in Republicanland. Or maybe “Shodan” is a thirtysomething living in his mother´s spare room and calling himself “BlackBelt” to impress people.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/130 "2009-09-20T01:04:56Z")

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> [@Mapache](#):
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> I have wondered for a long time if Shodan is really a shodan (First degree black belt in any number of Japanese martial arts.)  
> Most senseis are quite serious about teaching their students about avoiding aggression- my son’s Shitoryu class ends with a recitation of various aphorisms, like “Refrain from violent behaviour” and something that translates more or less to “Don’t be a jerk”. Shodan’s behaviour on this board reminds me of the sort of new black belt that goes into a bar, elbows a client aside, and says “Quit crowdin’ me, asshole.”  
> If he behaves like this in real life, I imagine some day he’ll try it on a Uechiryu godan or someone of that level, and have his head handed to him. If he only behaves like this on message boards, then he’s a coward, and I hope his sensei is ashamed of him.  
> Now maybe his sensei patterns himelf on the Bad Guy from the Karate Kid movies; in thirty years around the martial arts I never met one like that but perhaps they exist out there in Republicanland. Or maybe “Shodan” is a thirtysomething living in his mother´s spare room and calling himself “BlackBelt” to impress people.

Or maybe he’s an [evil robot](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHODAN).

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/131 "2009-09-20T11:43:47Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Even so, if that’s the case, it’d be pointless, would it not?
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> You’re better off just indicting him.

Yes. Exactly.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/132 "2009-09-20T13:35:18Z")

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> [@Mapache](#):
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> I have wondered for a long time if Shodan is really a shodan (First degree black belt in any number of Japanese martial arts.)  
> Most senseis are quite serious about teaching their students about avoiding aggression…  
> Now maybe his sensei patterns himelf on the Bad Guy from the Karate Kid movies…

[Shodan _is_ the bad sensei from the first _Karate Kid_.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11472665&postcount=47) Keep in mind, this was in a thread about that video of some guy getting his head stomped in a dojo and where viewers of the video weren’t sure if the victim were alive or dead. Yes, he’s so insecure he needed to tell us he’s defeated some kid who was idly boasting.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/133 "2009-09-20T22:52:45Z")

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Now, bup, that’s not fair. It’s really not even honest. Shodan said nothing about the “guy” (the term he used) being “some kid”. And he wasn’t “idly boasting”; he was quite actively bloviating about how his skill set made him impervious to Judo techniques. It’s not cool to make shit up, especially if you’re providing a link.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/134 "2009-09-21T02:13:07Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> Shodan’s girlfriend speaks! 🙂

Ask your girlfriend if it’s OK to respond to my request for evidence that \*\*Shodan \*\*is racist, and for a working definition of racism.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/135 "2009-09-21T03:56:36Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> Ask your girlfriend if it’s OK to respond to my request for evidence that \*\*Shodan \*\*is racist, and for a working definition of racism.

Do you find this racist?

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> I wonder how Shodan would feel if someone made a joke about his house turning yellow when he brought his adopted kids home from Korea?

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**Author:** ![TurboNuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@TurboNuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TurboNuke)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/136 "2009-09-21T04:42:48Z")

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Hmm, there are about 6 conservatives left on this board.

How about y’all run off the rest and y’all can continue your liberal douche circle jerk.

We have a difference of opinion, this does not make one side or the other evil.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/137 "2009-09-21T05:10:24Z")

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At last, a cry for civility and temperance! Blow it out your ass.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/138 "2009-09-21T10:01:11Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> Do you find this racist?

I don’t know. Did \*\*Shodan \*\*say that? No? Well what has that to do with my question?

How about that working definition? Third request.

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**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/139 "2009-09-21T10:14:35Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> I don’t know. Did \*\*Shodan \*\*say that? No? Well what has that to do with my question?
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> How about that working definition? Third request.

You’re either too stupid or too obtuse to understand. So I won’t bother trying any more.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2009, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-word-shodan/510537/140 "2009-09-21T10:20:27Z")

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> [@leander](#):
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> You’re either too stupid or too obtuse to understand. So I won’t bother trying any more.

It’s a real simple question, which you haven’t tried at all to answer, despite repeated requests. Give me an example of **Shodan** ’s racism, and a working definition of racism. You are the one who made the claim. Put up or shut up. It’s as simple as that.

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