# A4V **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 21, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296 "2016-05-21T12:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lion815](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f17d59/32.png) [@Lion815](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lion815)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/1 "2016-05-21T12:21:00Z")
folks, I am having trouble getting my A4V presentations being discharged by the IRS technical Support Division c/o UCC Contract trust. Any suggestions on how to get this process working? Regards ---
**Author:** ![lazybratsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ba8739/32.png) [@lazybratsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lazybratsche)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/2 "2016-05-21T12:50:34Z")
The only GQ worthy answer to this question is “pay the IRS.” There are no secret words to make them go away. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/3 "2016-05-21T13:24:46Z")
A4V is not real. You’ve been had. Pay what you owe. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/4 "2016-05-21T14:49:47Z")
Now I’m curious, what is A4V? Any good page debunking it? ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/5 "2016-05-21T14:55:34Z")
A4V is “accepted for value”. Cecil’s article: > **[Can I avoid paying a tax bill by writing “accepted for value” on it?](https://www.straightdope.com/21344147/can-i-avoid-paying-a-tax-bill-by-writing-accepted-for-value-on-it)** ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/6 "2016-05-21T14:59:51Z")
> [@Lion815](#): > > folks, > > I am having trouble getting my A4V presentations being discharged by the IRS technical Support Division c/o UCC > > Contract trust. Any suggestions on how to get this process working? > > Regards What do you think is supposed to happen and why? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/7 "2016-05-21T18:43:12Z")
Since the OP is looking for legal advice, let’s move this to IMHO. Colibri General Questions Moderator ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/8 "2016-05-21T23:40:15Z")
> [@Lion815](#): > > folks, > > I am having trouble getting my A4V presentations being discharged by the IRS technical Support Division c/o UCC > Contract trust. Any suggestions on how to get this process working? > > Regards You need to use the correct magic words. Oh, and - watch the fringe on the flags! ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/9 "2016-05-22T03:30:57Z")
When you send the bill back to the IRS with A4V written on it, be sure you also add a yellow fringe around the edges. ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/10 "2016-05-22T05:36:31Z")
> [@Lion815](#): > > folks, > > I am having trouble getting my A4V presentations being discharged by the IRS technical Support Division c/o UCC > Contract trust. Any suggestions on how to get this process working? > > Regards Sounds like you’ve inadvertently created joinder with the IRS. You’re screwed. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/11 "2016-05-22T18:49:25Z")
Wait did the OP create joinder or did their strawman? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/12 "2016-05-23T04:02:56Z")
Did the person who is the OP create joinder, or did the person’s agent? Was it Lion815 or LION815? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2016, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a4v/755296/13 "2016-05-23T04:11:15Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Did the person who is the OP create joinder, or did the person’s agent? Was it Lion815 or LION815? Lion of the Family 815.