# AA and Reparations MCGXVIII **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 16, 2003, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397 "2003-12-16T21:22:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/21 "2003-12-17T19:33:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lieu \* > \*\*That place scares me. It’s cozier in the Pit. \*\* Ironic, isn’t it? I feel the same way. Sam ---
**Author:** ![Alereon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alereon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alereon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/22 "2003-12-18T02:35:28Z")
So, just because a proposed law doing $badthing (say, a federal law making homosexual activities a crime) is unlikely to actually be introduced, much less pass, we shouldn’t talk about how fucking stupid and downright evil said proposed law is, and what fucktards its proponents are? The struggle for equality and an end to discrimination must continue. Social justice can’t be achieved by just ceasing discussion when you think there’s been enough. It’s going to take time, but we have to keep on until the fight is won. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/23 "2003-12-18T04:42:27Z")
> [@](#): > > _Alereon_ > So, just because a proposed law doing $badthing (say, a federal law making homosexual activities a crime) is unlikely to actually be introduced, much less pass, we shouldn’t talk about how fucking stupid and downright evil said proposed law is, and what fucktards its proponents are? It’s been talked about. That’s part of the OP’s point. Nobody is saying anything new about it now and the topic usually becomes an excuse to rag on black people. ---
**Author:** ![Alereon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alereon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alereon)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/24 "2003-12-18T07:06:43Z")
Hence my second paragraph. ---
**Author:** ![Sqube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Sqube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sqube)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/25 "2003-12-18T07:21:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Alereon \* > \*\*So, just because a proposed law doing $badthing (say, a federal law making homosexual activities a crime) is unlikely to actually be introduced, much less pass, we shouldn’t talk about how fucking stupid and downright evil said proposed law is, and what fucktards its proponents are? > > The struggle for equality and an end to discrimination must continue. Social justice can’t be achieved by just ceasing discussion when you think there’s been enough. It’s going to take time, but we have to keep on until the fight is won. \*\* That type of logic and rational discussion won’t fly in the Pit. Fucktard. Seriously though… what you said in the second paragraph is true. Giving a bunch of random black people some checks just isn’t going to do it though. ---
**Author:** ![Amok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f17d59/32.png) [@Amok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amok)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/26 "2003-12-18T18:21:12Z")
Eh, 90% of GD is the same topics over and over again. Iraq, Isreal/Palestine, Why Bush Sucks (and Why Clinton Sucked before the last election) and so on and so on. While there are occasionally some very interesting original topics in the forum, most of the time it’s not just new people debating the same old things, it’s often the same old people debating the same old things. Affirimative action and reperations topics are hardly unique in that regard. ---
**Author:** ![TaxGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TaxGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TaxGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/27 "2003-12-18T18:29:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Alereon \* > **So, just because a proposed law doing $badthing (say, a federal law making homosexual activities a crime) is unlikely to actually be introduced, much less pass, we shouldn’t talk about how fucking stupid and downright evil said proposed law is, and what fucktards its proponents are?** Well, that’s the thing. Doing reparations is not a “proposed law” in the sense that any legislative body anywhere is considering it. It’s really a proposal for a proposed law, so it’s too early to fight about. > [@](#): > > \*\*The struggle for equality and an end to discrimination must continue. Social justice can’t be achieved by just ceasing discussion when you think there’s been enough. It’s going to take time, but we have to keep on until the fight is won. \*\* The problem with this statement is that the folks on both sides of both issues will 100% agree with it. You might as well come out in full support of not beating up old ladies or something. ---
**Author:** ![Stuffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f17d59/32.png) [@Stuffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stuffy)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/28 "2003-12-18T19:15:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, that’s the thing. Doing reparations is not a “proposed law” in the sense that any legislative body anywhere is considering it. It’s really a proposal for a proposed law, so it’s too early to fight about. I wouldn’t even call it that. To me it’s more like a boogie/strawman for idiots to disguise irrational attacks on black people. but that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/29 "2003-12-18T20:20:28Z")
**Scott** , I actually thought that was what it was going to be about. ---
**Author:** ![Alereon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecd19e/32.png) [@Alereon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alereon)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397/30 "2003-12-19T01:48:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TaxGuy \* > **Well, that’s the thing. Doing reparations is not a “proposed law” in the sense that any legislative body anywhere is considering it. It’s really a proposal for a proposed law, so it’s too early to fight about.** The proper time to fight about it is the first time someone does something stupid like suggest reparations are a good idea, and then every other time after that. > [@](#): > > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > The struggle for equality and an end to discrimination must continue. Social justice can’t be achieved by just ceasing discussion when you think there’s been enough. It’s going to take time, but we have to keep on until the fight is won. > > The problem with this statement is that the folks on both sides of both issues will 100% agree with it. You might as well come out in full support of not beating up old ladies or something. \*\* You’d think, but the fact that this thread exists points to the contrary 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aa-and-reparations-mcgxviii/219397.md?page=1)