# Aaaron Hernandez found guilty of first degree murder **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 15, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737 "2015-04-15T15:13:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8491ac/32.png) [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fool_in_the_Rain)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/1 "2015-04-15T15:13:37Z")
It took the jury 7 days and nearly 40 hours, but they found him guilty of 1st degree, and guilty on weapons charges. He will get to appeal. He still faces murder charges for a shooting in Boston outside a night club from 2012. [http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/04/15/verdict-reached-aaron-hernandez-murder-trial/vAKB6tdDIakFmKn1IuShhP/story.html](http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/04/15/verdict-reached-aaron-hernandez-murder-trial/vAKB6tdDIakFmKn1IuShhP/story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/2 "2015-04-15T15:20:38Z")
That’s the Patriot Way! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/3 "2015-04-15T15:48:03Z")
They cut him as soon as he was arrested. Your point? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/4 "2015-04-15T16:00:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > They cut him as soon as he was arrested. Your point? That you look for fights, are defensive, and have little, if any, sense of humor? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/5 "2015-04-15T16:13:35Z")
:rolleyes: Are you interested in studying which NFL teams, or college programs, have had the worst criminal records in recent years? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/6 "2015-04-15T16:17:53Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Are you interested in studying which NFL teams, or college programs, have had the worst criminal record in recent years? Or just taking a lame, juvenile potshot at a team you happen to be juvenilely jealous of? Not jealous, but it was a juvenile potshot. I didn’t expect it to arouse such feelings of desperate defensiveness and anger though. I’ll go ahead and leave you to that. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/7 "2015-04-15T16:40:13Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Not jealous, but it was a juvenile potshot. I’m a Pats fan from way back. It brought a wry smile to my face. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/8 "2015-04-15T16:51:42Z")
A callous, maybe soulless, murderer has found justice, with more to come. That is not a subject for a “sense of humor” or other juvenility to apply. Or even the Game Room for that matter. Got it? ---
**Author:** ![Texascowboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Texascowboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Texascowboy)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/9 "2015-04-15T17:08:20Z")
> [@Fool\_in\_the\_Rain](#): > > It took the jury 7 days and nearly 40 hours, but they found him guilty of 1st degree, and guilty on weapons charges. > > He will get to appeal. > > He still faces murder charges for a shooting in Boston outside a night club from 2012. > > [http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/04/15/verdict-reached-aaron-hernandez-murder-trial/vAKB6tdDIakFmKn1IuShhP/story.html](http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/04/15/verdict-reached-aaron-hernandez-murder-trial/vAKB6tdDIakFmKn1IuShhP/story.html) Guilty and now serving the rest of his natural life in prison where he’ll have plenty of time to think about the life choices he made sad ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/10 "2015-04-15T17:19:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > A callous, maybe soulless, murderer has found justice, with more to come. That is not a subject for a “sense of humor” or other juvenility to apply. Or even the Game Room for that matter. Got it? You died and made you a mod? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/11 "2015-04-15T17:27:43Z")
Who died? Odin Lloyd, Daniel de Abreu, and Safiro Furtado. I think they all deserve a thought. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/12 "2015-04-15T19:07:32Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > That you look for fights, are defensive, and have little, if any, sense of humor? If you have a problem with another poster, take it out of this topic and to the Pit. > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > A callous, maybe soulless, murderer has found justice, with more to come. That is not a subject for a “sense of humor” or other juvenility to apply. Or even the Game Room for that matter. Got it? Just report the posts you think break rules or that you want a mod to look it, don’t try to mod others yourself, please. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/13 "2015-04-15T19:07:42Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > A callous, maybe soulless, murderer has found justice, with more to come. That is not a subject for a “sense of humor” or other juvenility to apply. Or even the Game Room for that matter. Got it? Which is why your first two comments in the thread were about the Patriots and how they were affected rather than your, apparently newly discovered, need to uphold the proprieties of the Game Room. Dressing yourself in the cloak of deep concern for bad, dark comedy to cover up your over-reaction to a slight to the Patriots is very telling. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/14 "2015-04-15T19:49:47Z")
I’d be curious to hear the details of why it was so long to come to consensus. From what I’d heard it seemed like they had very good evidence, and would have a slam dunk case to get a conviction. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/15 "2015-04-15T19:56:08Z")
Maybe: A lot of evidence to review, feeling the responsibility to be thorough, and understanding they needed to appear to the public as well as the court that they’d been conscientious in their duty? It wasn’t the Tsarnaev case, which the defense began with admitting he’d _done_ everything he was charged with, leaving the jury with little to discuss before returning the verdicts. ---
**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/16 "2015-04-15T20:01:57Z")
They didn’t have a murder weapon or a real motive so that could take a bit of time, but I’ll bet most of the discussion wasn’t guilt or innocence but degree. ---
**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/17 "2015-04-15T20:31:36Z")
Here’s what I can never understand. If you’re a football player, why do you even need to pull a gun? Can’t you just, y’know, throw him to the ground, or shove him into a wall, or twist his arm, or crackback, or legwhip? I hardly think some random schmuck in a nightclub is going to offer much resistance. Dang. A $40 million contract down the tubes, just like that. I’ve said it over and over, if they really need to engage in this insane self-destructive behavior, they should do it when their careers are over and they’re old and washed up and already spent all their money, and going to prison isn’t so bad since the house just got foreclosed on anyway. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/18 "2015-04-15T22:38:44Z")
I haven’t been following this particularly closely. In my view it’s gonna be tough to top (or “sink beneath,” if you prefer) what Rae Carruth did. What an absolute low-life _that_ guy is. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/19 "2015-04-16T01:42:45Z")
Lawrence Phillips, already in prison for running over three teenagers in his car and for choking his girlfriend, apparently just murdered his cellmate. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2015, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/20 "2015-04-17T11:59:42Z")
I saw a mention in the media that his mother thinks he “changed” a lot in personality after his dad died. Losing a parent can mess a kid up, but my first impression is that it’s just a grieving family looking for answers, any answer. What do you think? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737.md?page=2)