# Aaaron Hernandez found guilty of first degree murder **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 15, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737 "2015-04-15T15:13:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/21 "2015-04-18T06:49:24Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > I saw a mention in the media that his mother thinks he “changed” a lot in personality after his dad died. Losing a parent can mess a kid up, but my first impression is that it’s just a grieving family looking for answers, any answer. What do you think? I think he’s a psychopath. And not a bright one. Plenty of children go through tragedies or the loss of a parent and it doesn’t lead them to murder 3 people over a spilled drink in a club. My armchair psychologist belief is that his personality “changed” after his dad died because he may have stopped trying to fake not being a POS. But it wasn’t really a fundamental shift. But I’m just throwing stuff out there. The one thing I just cannot get over is being so stupid as to drive 40 miles to Dorchester to pick up the victim, then 40 miles back to murder him half a mile from your own house. The arrogance and stupidity are breathtaking. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/22 "2015-04-18T09:49:35Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > You died and made you a mod? A former mod? ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2015, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/23 "2015-04-18T09:55:06Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I’d be curious to hear the details of why it was so long to come to consensus. From what I’d heard it seemed like they had very good evidence, and would have a slam dunk case to get a conviction. The trial took place 20 miles from Foxborough. The jury members who didn’t give a shit about football had to turn the ones that did. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/24 "2017-04-14T20:31:34Z")
> [@](#): > > Aaron Hernandez was found not guilty of two counts of murder on Friday in the killing of two men in a drive-by shooting outside a Boston nightclub in July 2012. > > The former NFL star faced eight counts in all, including two of murder and three of armed assault. He also faced a charge of witness intimidation for allegedly shooting his former friend in the face in an attempt to silence him. > Hernandez was found guilty of just one count: illegal possession of a firearm… > **[Aaron Hernandez found not guilty of double murder | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/us/aaron-hernandez-verdict/)** > > Aaron Hernandez was found not guilty of two counts of murder on Friday in the killing of two men in a drive-by shooting outside a Boston nightclub in July 2012. Anyone follow the case? Why did he get off? Just the lack of credibility of the main witness? ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/25 "2017-04-14T20:48:36Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > A callous, maybe soulless, murderer has found justice, with more to come. That is not a subject for a “sense of humor” or other juvenility to apply. Or even the Game Room for that matter. Got it? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/26 "2017-04-14T20:59:49Z")
> [@chizzuk](#): > > The one thing I just cannot get over is being so stupid as to drive 40 miles to Dorchester to pick up the victim, then 40 miles back to murder him half a mile from your own house. The arrogance and stupidity are breathtaking. Home delivery is the only way to go. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/27 "2017-04-14T21:15:36Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > [http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/us/aaron-hernandez-verdict/](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/us/aaron-hernandez-verdict/) > > Anyone follow the case? Why did he get off? Just the lack of credibility of the main witness? Don’t know how, but the jurors know he’s already in for life so unencumbered by the potential guilt of allowing a murderer to go free they stuck to the evidence and found reasonable doubt. From what I know the evidence was not air-tight, it relied on statements from witnesses with credibility problems. ---
**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/28 "2017-04-14T21:18:59Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > [http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/us/aaron-hernandez-verdict/](http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/us/aaron-hernandez-verdict/) > > Anyone follow the case? Why did he get off? Just the lack of credibility of the main witness? From what I remember. This case didn’t even come up until after the Lloyd case, even though it happened a year before. I’d bet it was a pretty thin case from the start and they only moved forward with it after the Lloyd conviction because they thought they could make it work with his notoriety. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2017, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/29 "2017-04-15T00:24:42Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > Lawrence Phillips, already in prison for running over three teenagers in his car and for choking his girlfriend, apparently just murdered his cellmate. Just a quick update… Phillips was potentially eligible for the death penalty following this murder and the prosecutor was considering whether to pursue this, but Phillips fatally hung himself in January 2016. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/30 "2017-04-19T10:39:18Z")
He was found [dead in his cell](http://nbc4i.com/2017/04/19/aaron-hernandez-found-dead-in-his-jail-cell/) earlier this morning. ---
**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/31 "2017-04-19T11:00:59Z")
So, what was wrong with the man? His record of violence seems to go back to at least 2007 when he was 17 with lots of shootings in-between. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/32 "2017-04-19T11:37:40Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > He was found [dead in his cell](http://nbc4i.com/2017/04/19/aaron-hernandez-found-dead-in-his-jail-cell/) earlier this morning. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/33 "2017-04-19T12:05:42Z")
I guess that is the end of one of the most extreme falls from glory in recent memory. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/34 "2017-04-19T12:40:48Z")
> [@MichaelEmouse](#): > > So, what was wrong with the man? His record of violence seems to go back to at least 2007 when he was 17 with lots of shootings in-between. Who knows? Sometimes it’s literally brain damage - not necessarily football related. Brain tumors, ven benign ones, can sometimes cause persistent violent behaviour. Some people are simply broken. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/35 "2017-04-19T12:49:22Z")
I wonder what triggered the timing of the suicide? He was just found not guilty of 2 additional murders. He already had a life sentence for the convictions in the Odin Lloyd murder. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/36 "2017-04-19T13:08:04Z")
Was just kinda surfing around the web and came across this story from SI about Aaron Hernandez and his older brother DJ, about them growing up together, and how Aaron’s conviction and incarceration impacted his own life. Pretty emotional read, actually. > **[Aaron Hernandez’s brother retraces NFL star's path to murder](https://www.si.com/longform/2016/aaron-hernandez-brother-dj-hernandez/)** > > If anyone can understand how Aaron Hernandez went from NFL stardom to life in prison for murder, it’s his older brother, D.J., whose perspective cost him a way of living. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/37 "2017-04-19T15:00:43Z")
[Aaron Hernandez kills himself in prison cell: > [@](#): > > Hernandez had been housed in a single cell in a general population unit at the maximum-security state prison in Shirley. He tried to jam the cell door to prevent guards from opening it and hanged himself with a bedsheet tied to a window, Fallon said. > [@](#): > > His death came less than a week after the 27-year-old athlete was acquitted in a second murder case. ]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_AARON\_HERNANDEZ\_DEATH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-04-19-10-47-20](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AARON_HERNANDEZ_DEATH?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-04-19-10-47-20))ETA: Ninja’d! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/38 "2017-04-19T15:04:37Z")
I saw this thread title, and my first thought was that it was a crass suicide joke. Maybe update the title? > [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > I wonder what triggered the timing of the suicide? He was just found not guilty of 2 additional murders. He already had a life sentence for the convictions in the Odin Lloyd murder. One of his representatives said that Aaron had problems, but he had people who loved him and would never do this. He thinks it was a staged suicide. Although I can’t imagine how if he was alone in his cell, but it’s something that’s been thrown out there. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/39 "2017-04-19T15:21:36Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > One of his representatives said that Aaron had problems, but he had people who loved him and would never do this. He thinks it was a staged suicide. Yeah, but somebody says that about effectively every suicide in jail. ---
**Author:** ![quimper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7c8e57/32.png) [@quimper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quimper)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737/40 "2017-04-19T15:46:40Z")
“As it was in the beginning.” In an odd way, he may have done it to clear his name. In Massachusetts, if an appellant dies before their appeal is concluded the results of the original trial and conviction are set aside and sealed (can’t be mentioned AT ALL during a civil trial). The [murder convictions of John Salvi](http://www.nytimes.com/1997/02/02/us/conviction-in-killings-at-clinics-is-overturned.html) and the sexual abuse convictions of [John Geoghan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Geoghan) were set aside due to their deaths during appeal. In other words: In the eyes of the SJC of Massachusetts, Aaron Hernandez shall forever be considered innocent of the murder of Odin Lloyd. [https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/19/hernandezdismiss/BvCcJQ1Ubg3mJAze0ttpvJ/story.html](https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2017/04/19/hernandezdismiss/BvCcJQ1Ubg3mJAze0ttpvJ/story.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder/717737.md?page=3)