# Aaron Rodgers and vaccines

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 8, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976 "2021-11-08T13:37:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/61 "2021-11-08T17:12:17Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> The risks are very low, but we don’t get a pass for putting people in danger without their consent because the risks are low. They needed to be told so they can judge for themselves.

I agree with consent being necessary 100%. On top of it, sure the risks are low, but there are lots of people like him making that same decision, all around the world…a fractional probability here, a fractional probability there, and pretty soon you’re talking meaningful probabilities.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/62 "2021-11-08T17:12:50Z")

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I think retroactive forfeiting should be on the table. I think it probably should not happen based on what’s come out so far, but if he further violated protocol or lied about more, particularly anything that could have put opposing players at risk, it should.

If it’s revealed that he should not have been on the field, that should be the consequence. And it should be clear they are investigating that possibility.

I presume that there isn’t anything he could have lied about to get on the field – testing should be verified. Could he lie about having isolated when required? That is for player safety, too, because positive tests can lag infection.

What an incredibly dumb thing to do.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/63 "2021-11-08T17:39:08Z")

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State Farm has put [out their statement](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2021/11/08/state-farm-stands-by-aaron-rodgers-packers-vaccine-comments/6338052001/) that they’re respecting his right to make his own choices.

The translation: he’s a very popular athlete, we don’t want to drop him, and we hope this blows over soon

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/64 "2021-11-08T17:40:46Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> The translation: he’s a very popular athlete, we don’t want to drop him, and we hope this blows over soon

And, quite possibly: a lot of our policyholders and agents probably agree with Rodgers.

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**Author:** ![peedin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peedin/32/14095_2.png) [@peedin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peedin)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/65 "2021-11-08T17:41:18Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> > [@Telemark](#):
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> > I thought that was after he was found out, not before. Doesn’t anyone have a timeline?
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> I have to wear a yellow wristband at all times, shouting to the world, ‘I’m unclean and unvaxxed.’"\*

Cry me a river. It angers me that he isn’t vaccinated, but it angers me more that he lied. Now he has COVID and I hope he ends up sick, at home, because don’t you unvaccinated come to the hospital where I work and take up a bed needed for the vaccinated. I also hope Green Bay loses every game for the rest of the season.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/66 "2021-11-08T19:43:24Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Again on the radio, just now. “Kaaron Rodgers”. I’ll stop now.

Radio? You should see the image meme that goes with it.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/67 "2021-11-08T19:53:55Z")

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Ha! Nice. Tried to link some pictures but they wouldn’t embed. Just google Kaaron Rogers (such a great putdown) for the comedy gold.

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> On the other hand if the following procedure is just another lie then the NFL needs to come down on him hard

Agreed.

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**Author:** ![eschrodinger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschrodinger/32/122_2.png) [@eschrodinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschrodinger)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/68 "2021-11-08T20:04:59Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> The incident where he responded to a direct question by saying he was “immunized” (i.e. got this woo-woo “immune enhancement”) has the air of a recalcitrant child trying to use some technicality to claim that they didn’t _really_ disobey parental instructions.

I hope there are consequences too for the Packers organization if they didn’t require more information than his BS wordplay statement of being “immunized.” If they didn’t require dates, name of provider and name of vaccine, they should be penalized as well. And if the league hasn’t specified the level of proof teams need to require, they should be ashamed. There should be no possibilty of twisting words. If someone is going to lie, it should be crystal clear that they did, by naming a vaccine that they didn’t get, by a provider who didn’t provide it.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/69 "2021-11-08T20:12:47Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Just google Kaaron Rogers (such a great putdown) for the comedy gold.

Another nail in the Cancel Culture Coffin.

I don’t want to work, I want to bang on Rodger’s coffin all day…

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/70 "2021-11-08T20:26:49Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> > [@bobot](#):
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> > Again on the radio, just now. “Kaaron Rodgers”. I’ll stop now.
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> Radio? You should see the image meme that goes with it.

> [@EllisDee](#):
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> Ha! Nice. Tried to link some pictures but they wouldn’t embed. Just google Kaaron Rogers (such a great putdown) for the comedy gold.

Here ya go:  
[![](https://i.ibb.co/kxH60Hs/Kaaron-Rodgers.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/kxH60Hs/Kaaron-Rodgers.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/71 "2021-11-08T20:29:33Z")

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I’d like to speak to the manager.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/72 "2021-11-08T20:31:07Z")

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Sorry, Kaaron, that’s baseball. In football, you probably want the head coach.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/73 "2021-11-08T20:35:37Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I’d like to speak to the manager.

> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Sorry, Kaaron, that’s baseball. In football, you probably want the head coach.

Manager sounds so wussy, only woke liberal sports like baseball (I mean, you can’t score on defense! What useless shit is that?) use managers. Coach is much more macho. Got that hard “c” sound. Like kill, or fuck.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/74 "2021-11-08T20:51:24Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Sorry, Kaaron, that’s baseball. In football, you probably want the head coach.

In his case, he wants to speak to the General Manager. (Packers GM Brian Gutekunst seems to be the primary Packers employee who has pissed Rodgers off over the past few years.)

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/75 "2021-11-08T21:39:11Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> His resistance to the J&J vaccine is why I think he’s lying about his allergy as well – he just happens to have issues with all 3 vaccines. Maybe he’s just an anti-vaxxer when it comes to COVID. Allergies to the mRNA vaccine are really, really rare, right?

> Rodgers said he was allergic to an ingredient used in two mRNA vaccines – Pfizer and Moderna – and steered away from the Johnson & Johnson vaccine after reports of adverse reactions…
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> Rodgers did not disclose what ingredient he was allergic to, but noted that the [CDC warned](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html) those allergic to the polyethylene glycol ingredient should choose another form of protection against the virus…
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> He said he was not an anti-vaxer, but a “critical thinker.”
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> “I am not a COVID-denier or any (expletive) like that,” Rodgers said. “I just wanted to make the best choice for my body.”

> **[Aaron Rodgers says he's allergic to the COVID mRNA vaccines. Is that possible?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/aaron-rodgers-says-hes-allergic-202659982.html)**
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> Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers said he was allergic to an ingredient in COVID mRNA vaccines, but could he still be vaccinated?

[The CDC on polyethylene glycol allergies and the COVID vaccines.](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/specific-groups/allergies.html)

It looks like PEG can trigger anaphylaxis in some people. Whether Aaron Rogers is one of those people, however…

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/76 "2021-11-08T21:42:29Z")

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Oh, I know he could potentially be allergic, but those allergies are really rare. And, he just happened to be an anti-vaxxer at the same time for the J&J vaccine. What are the chances? Or, and I’m just spitballing here, since he lied about his vaccine status, maybe he lied about his allergy as well.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/77 "2021-11-08T22:01:59Z")

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To be fair, he’s also allergic to cloth, so he wasn’t able to wear a mask, either.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/78 "2021-11-08T22:05:24Z")

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Then how does he manage to wear any clothing at all, including his uniform?

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/79 "2021-11-08T22:41:35Z")

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Eh, unless Rodgers worships Trump, I’m not comfortable with tarring him with _that_ brush.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/80 "2021-11-08T23:51:28Z")

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It’s really elaborate body paint.

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