# Aaron Rodgers and vaccines

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 8, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976 "2021-11-08T13:37:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/101 "2021-11-09T19:10:02Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> > [@RitterSport](#):
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> > I mean, come on, give the guy a break.
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> Which leg?
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> 😉

Considering he makes his living mostly with his right arm, that would be the best place for a break.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/102 "2021-11-09T19:55:11Z")

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Kareem Abdul-Jabbar speaks out:

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> “Rodgers complained that the ‘cancel culture’ was coming for him, but his own words cancel him as a liar and a bad thinker,” Abdul-Jabbar [wrote]. “If he had a principled objection to the vaccine, he could have chosen not to play, like [Nets star] Kyrie Irving, who at least is honest. What really sacked his whining stance was his refusal to wear a mask during interviews to protect others from sickness and death.”
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> “That was merely his hubris and arrogance against what he called the ‘woke mob.’ In this case, woke means compassion and responsibility toward others. He might also remember that the only reason he is able to play in front of crowds again is because all those suckers got vaccinated.”

> **[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar slams Aaron Rodgers for 'directly and deliberately' lying...](https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/kareem-abdul-jabbar-slams-green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers-for-covid19-coronavirus-vaccine-lies-commentsmcaffee-show-000008970.html)**
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> “Rodgers complained that the ‘cancel culture’ was coming for him, but his own words cancel him as a liar and a bad thinker."

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/103 "2021-11-09T19:57:23Z")

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Nice! Abdul-Jabbar can add one more slam dunk to his stats.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/104 "2021-11-10T00:15:56Z")

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Aaron Rodgers again appeared on Pat McAfee’s talk show today for some more hard-hittiing sports journalism.

He understands you might have felt misled by him.

“I made some comments that people might have felt were misleading,” Rodgers told McAfee. “To anybody who felt misled by those comments, I take full responsibility for those comments.”

And yes, the uproar has affected him, he can have hurt feelings like anyone else, but he recognizes he said polarizing things, so he gets it.

So while you should feel bad for putting him through this, be glad that he’s still standing strong and thinking about getting back to what matters, which is football.

> **[Rodgers: May have misled but stand by remarks](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32592340/green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers-says-misled-people-vaccination-status-stands-comments)**
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> Aaron Rodgers said Tuesday on "The Pat McAfee Show" that he acknowledges he might have misled people with his vaccination status, but stands by his decision.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/105 "2021-11-10T00:20:49Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “To anybody who felt misled by those comments, I take full responsibility for those comments.” [Aaron Rodgers]

What does this even mean? It’s a bullshit phrase. If he were taking full responsibility, then he wouldn’t have a problem with being dropped by his sponsors.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/106 "2021-11-10T00:24:49Z")

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It’s part of the genre - “If anyone was offended by my grossly offensive comments, I apologize.”

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/107 "2021-11-10T00:29:54Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It’s part of the genre - “If anyone was offended by my grossly offensive comments, I apologize.” -

Except the word “apologize” or “sorry” was nowhere to be seen…

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/108 "2021-11-10T00:35:25Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> "I made some comments that people might have felt were misleading,” Rodgers told McAfee. “To anybody who felt misled by those comments, I take full responsibility for those comments.”

FFS, what a pile of…mush. So his comments weren’t misleading, but people might have _felt_ they were. Uh, what? And anybody who actually _felt_ misled, he’s…well, not sorry, not regretful, but he takes full responsibility for those comments.

What an ass.

ETA: Ninja’d by **needscoffee**!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/109 "2021-11-10T02:08:07Z")

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IMHO, the league needs to help him take full responsibillity. That can be done by banning him.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/110 "2021-11-10T02:14:44Z")

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The NFL has taken _very stern action_ in response to Rodgers violating Covid protocols.

He’s been fined $14,650.

That represents .0065% of his $22,400,000 salary for 2021.

Ouch.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/111 "2021-11-10T02:21:43Z")

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That’s like a gentle caress than a slap on the wrist.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/112 "2021-11-10T02:35:44Z")

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So, my respect for Kareem has increased. My respect for Rodgers has…disappeared.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/113 "2021-11-10T02:36:31Z")

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Yeah, it’s just completely gone for me, too.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/114 "2021-11-10T02:46:17Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> The NFL has taken _very stern action_ in response to Rodgers violating Covid protocols.
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> He’s been fined $14,650.

As ESPN notes, the amount of the fine is what was agreed to in a broader agreement between the league and the players’ association, when the COVID protocols were instituted. I suspect that the agreement prevented the fine from being larger – I bolded that portion below. (And, FTR, I agree – to someone like Rodgers, a fine like that is a pittance.)

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> The violations included the unvaccinated Rodgers not wearing a mask during his news conferences and because the team did not report that Rodgers and Lazard attended a Halloween party, even though it was away from the team facility. By attending, Rodgers and Lazard violated the protocol that prevents unvaccinated players from gathering in groups of more than three, which was the reason for their fine. **The amount of the players’ fines were part of the jointly agreed upon fine schedule between the league and the players’ union.**
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> The investigation also included a review of video from inside the club facility and found a few isolated instances of Rodgers and Lazard failing to wear a mask in the facility. Other than those isolated incidents, the video showed no wide-spread or systemic mask-wearing violation, the source said.

> **[Source: Pack, Rodgers fined for COVID violations](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32593729/green-bay-packers-aaron-rodgers-allen-lazard-fined-covid-19-protocol-violations-source-says)**
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> The Packers have been fined $300,000, and quarterback Aaron Rodgers and receiver Allen Lazard have each been fined $14,650 for violating COVID-19 protocols, a league source said.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/115 "2021-11-10T04:19:38Z")

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What a petty, insignifcant gesture by the league. Welp, which influential role model NFL superstar is going to start anti-vaxxin’ next? Gronk? Smokin’ Jay Cutler? Art Schlister?

I mean shit, it’s not like you’re going to get into trouble or anything.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/116 "2021-11-10T04:28:32Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Welp, which influential role model NFL superstar is going to start anti-vaxxin’ next? Gronk?

Not Gronk. He and the rest of the Buccaneers are 100% vaccinated.

[https://www.sportscasting.com/tampa-bay-buccaneers-vaccination-status-proves-theyre-all-in-quest-repeat-2021/](https://www.sportscasting.com/tampa-bay-buccaneers-vaccination-status-proves-theyre-all-in-quest-repeat-2021/)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/117 "2021-11-10T13:48:29Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> What does this even mean?

It’s a variation on the “I’m sorry you were offended (because you’re such a snowflakey wuss)” no-pology.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/118 "2021-11-10T13:50:45Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Welp, which influential role model NFL superstar is going to start anti-vaxxin’ next? Gronk? Smokin’ Jay Cutler? Art Schlister?

We can only hope that the PR debacle (which is apparently going to be the only consequence of any significance) will deter imitation.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/119 "2021-11-10T15:09:09Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> He’s been fined $14,650.

Did he write them a check, or just take cash out of his wallet?

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-and-vaccines/953976/120 "2021-11-10T16:13:09Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Smokin’ Jay Cutler?

Been there, done that.

> **[Jay Cutler Claims He Was ‘Skewed’ as Anti-Vax and Anti-Mask After Choosing...](https://www.mediaite.com/sports/jay-cutler-complains-his-views-were-skewed-as-anti-vax-and-anti-mask-after-choosing-not-to-get-vaxxed-or-wear-a-mask/)**
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> Ex- QB Jay Cutler has been clear that he will not get vaccinated against Covid, his children will not get vaccinated and he does not want them to wear a mask.

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