# Aaron Rodgers out with torn Achilles tendon **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [September 12, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007 "2023-09-12T19:15:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/21 "2023-09-13T02:32:33Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > If they can prepare a grass field suitable for the World Cup games, including the final, why can’t they for NFL games? Because the NFL season is much longer than the World Cup. Also the NFL season takes place in a much colder part of the year, which is very unfriendly to grass. And I would bet a dollar that they are limiting (or even prohibiting) concerts and other events during the World Cup, which they can’t reasonably do from August to January to accommodate the NFL. Not to mention that even if no events ever happened at MetLife stadium other than NFL games from August to January, and it were unseasonably warm to allow the grass to have the most favorable conditions, you still have to face playing twice as many NFL games on that grass compared to your typical NFL stadium. I recall during the natural grass experiment from 2000 to 2003 that they spent $1 million _per week_ maintaining the grass, but still it was a dismal failure. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/22 "2023-09-13T02:37:48Z")
Here’s a link to my post in a previous discussion of this topic: > [@What’s the challenge with having natural grass for all North American sports stadiums?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-s-the-challenge-with-having-natural-grass-for-all-north-american-sports-stadiums/921457/46): > > That seems insanely wasteful to me, but not in a critical way, more in a sense of commanding respect. Tip of the hat to Green Bay. I’ve been trying to google up the event calendar for Giants Stadium during the 3 years they tried natural grass, but it’s rough. I did find the [current event calendar for MetLife Stadium](https://www.metlifestadium.com/events-tickets/event-calendar/page/2), though, and that’s illustrative enough, I think. Page 2 shows the tentative pandemic re-schedulings. The original dates were supposed to be: Saturday, July 18th, 2020 Guns N’ Ros… ---
**Author:** ![Tabco](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tabco/32/7644_2.png) [@Tabco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabco)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/23 "2023-09-13T03:10:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Eh, Seattle uses [FieldTurf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FieldTurf). That stadium does not have a bad reputation. I don’t see anyone griping that it’s a bad surface. Virtually all of the projects I’ve worked on that involve new football/soccer fields for the high schools in our area used FieldTurf. That stuff is pretty amazing and is a far cry from the old astroturf many people think of when they hear ‘artificial turf.’ FieldTurf is installed on a prepared surface of compacted subgrade, ~6" of compacted drainage rock, and ~2" of compacted leveling aggregate. The turf itself has fairly long “blades” and also has an infill of small rubberized granular pellets. If you’ve watched a football game played on FieldTurf and noticed black stuff flying where the players’ feet hit the ground, those are the rubberized pellets. You mentioned Seattle wanting the stadium to switch natural grass over artificial turf. It’s worth noting that the Washington State Department of Ecology considers this type of artificial turf a “pollution generating surface” and that any stormwater runoff from the field needs enhanced treatment before it’s allowed to infiltrate or enter a body of water. These enhanced treatment systems aren’t cheap and I could see a client electing to stay with natural grass it if means not having to install an expensive stormwater treatment facility onsite. Getting back to Aaron Rodgers, it’s unfortunate to have an injury like that at the beginning of the season, with all the excitement that comes when bringing in a quarterback that’s won a Superbowl (even if that was over a decade ago). I used to be a big Packers fan since before their Superbowl win in '97 right on up to a few years ago when real life commitments got in the way of my fandom. In the end I never bothered to get back into it and it’s been a couple years now since I’ve watched an NFL game at all. I used to be certain that one day I would see a game at Lambeau Field, and now I just don’t care. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/24 "2023-09-13T03:37:57Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I wonder what was up with Josh Allen on the Bills. Allen said today that the loss was his fault. > **["I am the reason we lost!" Bills QB Josh Allen takes all the blame for...](https://firstsportz.com/nfl-news-bills-qb-josh-allen-takes-blame-opening-day-loss-against-jets-himself/)** > > The Buffalo Bills are Super Bowl contenders this season. They have everything in place. An uber-talented QB in Josh Allen, a great no. 1 receiver in It seemed that he was trying to make flashy, impressive-looking plays that didn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Orville\_mogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/aeb1de/32.png) [@Orville\_mogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orville_mogul)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/25 "2023-09-13T06:56:44Z")
As a very long-suffering Jets fan, this is just… typical. However, it may be a blessing in disguise (for me). I was really struggling between being excited with the instant playoff hopes (though way over-hyped in my opinion) and hating the guy. So now that conflict is gone. And the Jets get to keep their first round draft pick. I have no idea how far Wilson will be able to take them, but at least I can watch them (lose?) in peace. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/26 "2023-09-13T13:16:14Z")
I was watching a news segment about this yesterday that showed a video clip that caught the exact moment, from a perfect camera angle and slowed down-- so you could see his calf muscle jiggle like jello as the tendon snapped. Ugh. 😱 Like him or hate him, Jets fan or not, I hate seeing anybody have an injury like that. Though, in the same news segment, they said “it’s being called ‘the most devastating injury in the history of the NFL’”. I thought, somewhere, Joe Theismann must be saying “Hello? Remember me?!?” Not to mention Detroit Lion Mike Utley and others made parapalegic by injuries. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/27 "2023-09-13T13:20:30Z")
Even if they mean in the context of ruining a contender’s chance to win a championship, Vinny Testaverde has entered the chat. Same injury, same team, same potential. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/28 "2023-09-13T13:49:11Z")
Yeah, in whatever context you take the statement, it was pretty hyperbolic and kind of insensitive to the many NFL players over the years who’ve had all manner of devastating injuries. Even if Rodger’s career is done, he’s got a nice nest egg and will be reasonably intact physically and mentally once he heals. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/29 "2023-09-13T14:00:59Z")
It was definitely hyperbolic. But considering Rodgers HoF trajectory, long career and many records, notoriety on and off the field, and spectacular flame-out on the field after only 3 plays with his new team, after a summer of hype, and on a nationally televised game, it does rank up there. Altho, I am of the age and remember the Joe Theismann event and think that one can never be topped. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/30 "2023-09-13T14:24:04Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Same injury, same team, same potential. Same point in the season (opening night). It’s eerie. I guess Testaverde was at Sunday night’s game as honorary Jets captain? Awkward. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/31 "2023-09-13T14:27:23Z")
> [@Tabco](#): > > The turf itself has fairly long “blades” and also has an infill of small rubberized granular pellets. If you’ve watched a football game played on FieldTurf and noticed black stuff flying where the players’ feet hit the ground, those are the rubberized pellets. Those pellets might by serially hazardous. > **[Artificial turf potentially linked to cancer deaths of six Phillies ball...](https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/10/phillies-ball-players-cancer-artifical-turf)** > > The lawn replacement – largely fallen out of favor in professional sports these days – contains large amounts of toxic chemicals Meanwhile, I’m seeing conflicting reports concerning whether Colin Kapernick is talking to the Jets. I’m guessing it’s not going to happen, and is just gossip. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/32 "2023-09-13T14:31:51Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Same point in the season (opening night). > > It’s eerie. It’s some kind of Testevoodoo!!! 😱 > [@Moriarty](#): > > Meanwhile, I’m seeing conflicting reports concerning whether Colin Kapernick is talking to the Jets. I’m guessing it’s not going to happen, and is just gossip. The only thing I’ve read (Bleacher Report, Sports Illustrated, etc.) is that his agent contacted the Jets. That’s all. No information on whether they politely declined or just immediately hung up. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/33 "2023-09-13T20:16:06Z")
Not sure how NFL quarterback contracts work but since he was guaranteed $65M for the season can they force him to assume other job duties instead of letting him basically go home? Can they make him attend meetings, show up to games, coach the new QB? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/34 "2023-09-13T21:00:22Z")
AIUI he is guaranteed $75M this season and next even if all he does is stand on the sideline and look pretty for the cameras. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/35 "2023-09-13T21:03:48Z")
I understand he’s taking Ivermectin and expects to be back on the field in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/36 "2023-09-13T22:12:23Z")
Good thing Joe Rogan heads up his medical team. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/37 "2023-09-13T22:59:36Z")
Aaron didn’t take a hard shot. He was just struggling to gain yardage. That tendon may have already been frayed. Retirement at 40 is the wisest move. But NFL players never seem to know when to quit. The Jets seem to have a curse on them. It’s been over 50 years since Joe Namath and his bad knees. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/38 "2023-09-13T23:42:19Z")
Meh, I’ll see your Rodgers and Testaverde and raise you a Brady ACL tear opening weekend of 2008. Fresh off an almost perfect season and an opportunity to try again. But Theismann’s leg beats them all. Brady and Testaverde came back from their injuries. There’s a decent chance Rodgers does, too. Theismann was completely done, in that moment, and everyone saw and heard it happen. Hell, I watched Anderson Silva shatter his leg on Chris Weidmann, and that didn’t haunt me as bad as replays of Theismann going down. ETA: Back to the original premise: Rodgers going down hurts in multiple ways. I definitely hate seeing ANYONE celebrating an injury, doubly so when it’s from Packers fans. And though I was so incredibly happy to see Albatross Rodgers leave, especially after some of his words and actions, I wished him well-ish; the Jets record does determine where the pick going to the Packers is, after all. While the all-but-guaranteed second round pick is definitely going to be better now than it was a week ago, it sucks coming at the expense of an exciting player with a second chance. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/39 "2023-09-14T00:07:22Z")
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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007/40 "2023-09-14T00:55:23Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Aaron didn’t take a hard shot. He was just struggling to gain yardage. > > That tendon may have already been frayed. Dan Marino had the same injury without even being hit. Story time: the next season (maybe later) I was a teenager who would go to Dolphins summer practices anytime I got off work early. One day I was standing by a fence opposite the stands where most fans would sit, and on a side field Marino was taking snaps from a center with Bernie Kosar, who by that point had joined the team as a backup. I was giddy when I overheard Marino comment to Kosar on the injury (which happened in Cleveland) > [@](#): > > I was on the ground for fucking half an hour Marino was able to come back, but he was 32. No way a 40 year old quarterback returns from that. Then again, didn’t Rodgers pledge to play for 2 years? Nah, I still don’t see it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-rodgers-out-with-torn-achilles-tendon/990007.md?page=3)