# Aaron Sele, you fucking SUCK!!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 28, 2003, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907 "2003-05-28T00:30:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/41 "2003-05-30T21:23:48Z")
Oh yeah, and getting BK for Hilly was a coup for Theo. Couldn’t have worked out better. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/42 "2003-05-30T21:48:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > **Garcia and Moyer are both done.** Garcia I’ll give you, but Moyer is [tied for the league lead in victories](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/stats/2003/pitching/al_0_byWINS.html). Not only that, but he’s [tied for eighth in strikeouts](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/stats/2003/pitching/al_0_bySTRIKEOUTS.html), which is astonishing given that he’s a junk-ball pitcher. Who cares that he’s got no heat? He’s freakin’ _eerie_ when it comes to getting into players’ heads. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/43 "2003-05-30T22:57:18Z")
Give him time. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2003, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/44 "2003-05-30T23:54:16Z")
Time as in a few years? I think he’s got another couple of seasons in him. Nageotte and Blackley should be ready by then. The M’s are fine. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/45 "2003-06-01T02:49:21Z")
Time as in a few weeks. His post-ASB ERA will be… 5.20+. Also, there’s a really interesting about Jenks in this month’s ESPN mag, **neurotik** and **deb**. Dunno if those are available in any other medium. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/46 "2003-06-01T03:16:00Z")
Hahaha! Angels suck! (I am sooo constructive.) ---
**Author:** ![g8rguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@g8rguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/g8rguy)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/47 "2003-06-01T03:30:40Z")
Well, **WL** , would you care to put something on that? ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2003, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/48 "2003-06-01T13:06:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by White Lightning \* > \*\*Time as in a few weeks. His post-ASB ERA will be… 5.20+. > Also, there’s a really interesting about Jenks in this month’s ESPN mag, **neurotik** and **deb**. Dunno if those are available in any other medium. \*\* Yeah, I’ve got a subscription so I’m eagerly awaiting my copy. And why would you think his post-ASB ERA will be 5.20+? There’s been nothing to indicate that that would happen. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/49 "2003-06-02T03:39:24Z")
Call it a hunch. **gr8guy** , name your terms. Let’s call the over/under an even 5.00 post-ASB, since I was shooting for an exact figure with 5.20. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/50 "2003-06-02T13:48:41Z")
First, I’d like to thank Mr. Sele for his pleasant outing yesterday against the Devil Rays. Perhaps he doesn’t suck quite as bad as I thought against teams that can’t hit. And what do we want to put on this? I’ll take the under if **gr8guy** doesn’t show in a few days. ---
**Author:** ![g8rguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@g8rguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/g8rguy)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/51 "2003-06-03T00:17:43Z")
Hmm. As a student, I be po’, so we’re going to have to put prestige on the line in some way instead. Or perhaps this: I should be in the Bay area some time late in the fall to celebrate finishing up my degree… how 'bout loser pays winner’s tab at an accompanying Dopefest? _shrugs_ Alternatively, I’d be happy to let **Neurotik** take my place so that I can bask in the glory of victory or suffer the agony of defeat, if he has something more interesting to suggest. ---
**Author:** ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/52 "2003-06-03T04:20:49Z")
Might I suggest a wager. How about the loser must extoll the virtues of the winners team in a thread created in MPSIMS, no sarcasm allowed. ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/53 "2003-06-03T05:34:56Z")
I’ll take both bets. I’ll _always_ accept a wager for a few beers. And as long as you don’t try to get me to say anything about the Yankees, threads in MPSIMS/sig lines for a month etc. are all fair game. ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/54 "2003-06-04T03:19:24Z")
_tap, tap, tap_ Excuse me, Mr. Lightning. Perhaps you’d like a peek at Mr. Moyer’s line for tonight’s game against the Phillies. ---
**Author:** ![And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df788c/32.png) [@And\_that\_s\_the\_bottom\_line](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/And_that_s_the_bottom_line)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/55 "2003-06-04T08:22:15Z")
I feel sorry for the **Angels**. I had to suffer through his pitching with the **Mariners**. He sucked in Seattle and now he sucks in Anaheim. Let’s hope he can get into some kind of a groove and start winning some games. And that’s the bottom line. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/56 "2003-06-04T19:28:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElvisL1ves \* > \*\*Sele is a sensitive soul, who can perform adequately when nothing is expected of him, but crumbles under the pressure when actually asked to win. \*\* So there you go. Trade him even up for Kenny Rogers. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/57 "2003-06-04T19:34:56Z")
For the edification of **jinwicked** , who no doubt has acquired a keen insight into baseball by this point: Mr. Rogers is a better-than-average pitcher for the Minnesota Twins, who has somehow managed to acquire, in eight postseason appearances, an 0-3 record with a 9.47 ERA. This reflects poorly on his ability to perform well in big games. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/58 "2003-06-04T20:35:01Z")
But see, at least Mr. Rogers is still capable of getting you to the postseason. You can always dump him after you are there. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/59 "2003-06-04T22:00:47Z")
**JonScribe** : I saw it. I was following the game online. He was riding the pine on my one fantasy team where I was forced to draft him. So evidently he’s won his last 5 starts? Wonder why I still can’t trade him away. I stand by my prognostication. Also, I’m not sure I’d characterize Kenny Rogers as better-than-average. I’ve never looked at his numbers, though. Actually I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t. I’m sure I could name dozens of AL pitchers that I’d rather have. I mean he’s what, the 6th-best starting pitcher on the Twins roster right now? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2003, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907/60 "2003-06-05T13:21:06Z")
I don’t know if Rogers is better than average NOW, but over the course of his career he has certainly been quite a bit better than average. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aaron-sele-you-fucking-suck/177907.md?page=2)