# Aarrggh.  Hurricane headed our way

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 24, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517 "2017-08-24T03:20:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/221 "2017-08-30T00:42:00Z")

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> [@Hocus\_Pocus](#):
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> And Osteen said that they would open when the other shelters become full.
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> He said this when the Convention Center was at 200% capacity.
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> Sorry, no credit when he only broke down after an avalanche of shame & goading.

NM Answered my own question.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/222 "2017-08-30T01:06:26Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So…can we go back to throwing pumpkin pie at him now? 😃

I’m sure he’d rather dodge pumpkin pie as opposed to hurricane debris. Or ill wishes and hopes that he dies.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/223 "2017-08-30T04:24:31Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> The eye has finally moved east of us. New Orleans is now getting hammered, but the west side of Houston is getting some relief. The reservoirs filled up and had to [water released from them](http://www.khou.com/weather/hurricanes/hurricane-harvey/controlled-release-of-barker-addicks-reservoirs-to-impact-thousands/468348109). I don’t remember that happening before in my lifetime.
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> SWMBO and I managed to dodge a bullet. Where we live just happened to be between the feeder bands as Harvey moved eastward. We got rain but not torrential rain. I’m buying some lottery tickets today, if I can find anyplace still open. 😃
> 
> For those that wished us well, our sincere thanks. For those that wished I would get killed by the storm, or be eaten by an alligator, or similar thoughts…have a nice day.

Glad you’ll be around for a while to take more abuse from us, fellow Doper-in-arms. Give SWMBO a hug for us. 😃

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/224 "2017-08-30T08:51:03Z")

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> [@Hocus\_Pocus](#):
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> And Osteen said that they would open when the other shelters become full.
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> He said this when the Convention Center was at 200% capacity.
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> Sorry, no credit when he only broke down after an avalanche of shame & goading.

But on the bright side he and his followers aren’t too busy to keep running a disinformation about how the church was flooded (when it wasn’t), how the area was under a mandatory evacuation order (when it wasn’t) and how other Christians are bad for daring to call out Osteen for failing to open the church.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/225 "2017-08-30T13:45:47Z")

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Have you had a chance to survey your storefront? Fingers crossed your window made it through.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/226 "2017-08-30T13:53:23Z")

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Just reading about the [rafts of fire ants](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/floating-venomous-fire-ants-add-threats-hurricane-s-wake-n797261)floating through Houston. Good God. I’d almost prefer the alligators.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/227 "2017-08-30T16:42:31Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So…can we go back to throwing pumpkin pie at him now? 😃

Not until we know it’s over and he’s safe. Then we can go back to our regularly scheduled fighting. In the meanwhile, real world shit takes precedence.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/228 "2017-08-30T16:45:06Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> But on the bright side he and his followers aren’t too busy to keep running a disinformation about how the church was flooded (when it wasn’t), how the area was under a mandatory evacuation order (when it wasn’t) and how other Christians are bad for daring to call out Osteen for failing to open the church.

Other Christians are RIGHT to call him out on it. If they, and the Jews, and the Muslims can open their doors, he damn sure can.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/229 "2017-08-30T16:56:12Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> So, it appears Cruz’s pork barrel “argument” was a bunch of lies. I sure do hope you Texans send him packing, next election. Hopefully he’ll end up homeless and living in a cardboard box under a (flooded) bridge somewhere.

His wife works at Goldman and he has a blank check to come back to his old law firm (and probably any one of half a dozen high powered law firms) as a partner anytime he wants.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/230 "2017-08-30T16:56:14Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Not until we know it’s over and he’s safe. Then we can go back to our regularly scheduled fighting. In the meanwhile, real world shit takes precedence.

In that case, Imma eat the pie. Because pie is awesome.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/231 "2017-08-30T19:45:11Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So…can we go back to throwing pumpkin pie at him now? 😃

Make it pecan pie. 😃

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/232 "2017-08-30T20:33:15Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> His wife works at Goldman and he has a blank check to come back to his old law firm (and probably any one of half a dozen high powered law firms) as a partner anytime he wants.

Now Chris Christie is joining the lynch mob against Cruz too. As governor of New Jersey during that hurricane (Sandy), I’m sure he has a very sharp memory of what went down.

I have to say I liked how he acted then - He said (paraphrasing) “screw politics and screw party lines my people need help”.

> **[Chris Christie’s Attack on Ted Cruz | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/chris-christie-attacks-ted-cruz-over-harvey-funding/)**
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> Chris Christie attacked Ted Cruz on CNN for his supposed hypocrisy in opposing relief for Hurricane Sandy yet requesting relief for Harvey.

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> New Jersey governor Chris Christie attacked Texas senator Ted Cruz on CNN today for his supposed hypocrisy in opposing relief for Hurricane Sandy yet requesting relief as Harvey devastates the Gulf Coast. Christie said: Senator Cruz was playing politics in 2012, trying to make himself look like the biggest conservative in the world. What I said at the time, both to him and to everybody else was, if you represent a coastal state, don’t do this, because your day is going to come and you’re going to expect people to help you. I see Senator Cruz and it’s disgusting to me that he stands in a recovery center with victims standing behind him as a backdrop and he’s still repeating the same reprehensible lies about what happened in Sandy, and it’s unacceptable to me. Absolutely unacceptable. And I’m not going to let him get away from it. Cruz claimed recently that “two-thirds” of the Hurricane Sandy relief bill, which eventually passed as the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act, “had nothing to do with Sandy” and that the bill itself was “filled with unrelated pork.” Washington Post fact-checkers gave that statement three “Pinocchios” on its vaunted scale, and CNN concurred. …

> **[Chris Christie slams Ted Cruz’s comments on Superstorm Sandy relief funding](https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/30/chris-christie-slams-ted-cruz-comments-supersto/)**
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> Gov. Chris Christie blasted Sen. Ted Cruz Wednesday for claiming that the Superstorm Sandy relief package didn’t actually provide funding for the victims.

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> Gov. Chris Christie blasted Sen. Ted Cruz Wednesday for claiming that the Superstorm Sandy relief package didn’t actually provide funding for the victims.
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> “Sen Cruz’s accusation that two-thirds of the Sandy bill was pork is absolutely ridiculous. The Washington Post did a fact check on it yesterday. That is consistent with what I remember at the time. There was a Senate bill that had some of that that all got stripped out because all of us, including the people of New Jersey, objected to it,” Mr. Christie, New Jersey Republican, explained on Fox News.
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> “They were playing politics with it. They were all getting ready to do what they wanted to do in 2016 and make themselves seem like the most conservative person. The fact of the matter is there’s not a liberal or conservative way to deal with people that are drowning or dying,” he added.
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> In 2013, Mr. Cruz and fellow Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn voted against the Superstorm Sandy relief package for a number of extra items thrown in the bill. They initially supported the funding package prior to the additions. Sandy devastated much of the coastline of Mr. Christie’s home state in 2012.

All things considered, I would sooner side with Christie than Cruz. Us East Coast boys stick together, and his story rings truer to me personally.

Almost forgot… **Yes, pie rules.**

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/233 "2017-08-30T21:54:27Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So…can we go back to throwing pumpkin pie at him now? 😃

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Make it pecan pie. 😃

Really? With those hard pecan pieces making all those contusions? At least pumpkin custard is smooth.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/234 "2017-08-30T22:08:46Z")

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Make mine blueberry or apple.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/235 "2017-08-30T22:10:18Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> It seems WaPo doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about.  
> [Obama Sandy aid bill filled with holiday goodies unrelated to storm damage](http://nypost.com/2012/12/15/obama-sandy-aid-bill-filled-with-holiday-goodies-unrelated-to-storm-damage/)

Are you able to explain why a well substantiated factual analysis in the _Washington Post_ constitutes “doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about”, and that your rebuttal to it is the Murdoch tabloid the _New York Post_, about which this has been written:  
The _Post_ has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch’s ownership for sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias. In 1980, the _Columbia Journalism Review_ stated “_New York Post_ is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem – a force for evil.”

… According to a survey conducted by Pace University in 2004, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York …

> **[New York Post](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post#Criticism)**
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> The New York Post (NY Post) is an American conservative daily tabloid newspaper published in New York City. The Post also operates three online sites: NYPost.com; PageSix.com, a gossip site; and Decider.com, an entertainment site.
> The newspaper was founded in 1801 by Alexander Hamilton, a Federalist and Founding Father who was appointed the nation's first Secretary of the Treasury by George Washington. The newspaper became a respected broadsheet in the 19th century, under the name New York Ev...

Do you honestly think there is any credible comparison here?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/236 "2017-08-31T11:15:17Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Make it pecan pie. 😃

You can have the pecan pie. I do not like it, Sam-I-Am.

How’s the house and business holding up? Any flood damage?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/237 "2017-08-31T11:46:47Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Make it pecan pie. 😃

MMmmm… pecan pie.

Seriously, glad the homestead and family came through well. Here’s hoping for the place of business.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Now Chris Christie is joining the lynch mob against Cruz too. As governor of New Jersey during that hurricane (Sandy), I’m sure he has a very sharp memory of what went down.
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> I have to say I liked how he acted then - He said (paraphrasing) “screw politics and screw party lines my people need help”.
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> [http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450978/chris-christie-attacks-ted-cruz-over-harvey-funding](http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450978/chris-christie-attacks-ted-cruz-over-harvey-funding)
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> [http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/30/chris-christie-slams-ted-cruz-comments-supersto/](http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/30/chris-christie-slams-ted-cruz-comments-supersto/)
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> All things considered, I would sooner side with Christie than Cruz. Us East Coast boys stick together, and his story rings truer to me personally.

Say what you will of Jersey Fats, yeah, Lyin’ Ted is just so slimy the floods will leave a coat of him all over Houston.

So I suppose Cruz will be fine with the Harvey relief bill including strict limitations and oversights so whatever’s done stops right at the high water line and rebuilding to statu quo as of mid-August and no further.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/238 "2017-08-31T13:12:13Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> You can have the pecan pie. I do not like it, Sam-I-Am.

I’ll take it.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/239 "2017-08-31T14:16:32Z")

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Hey guys, I survived the flood too, not that anyone cares.

In fact I was planning to regale y’all with dramatic, riveting stories of water rescues amid the fire ant rafts, alligators and exploding chemical plants, except…I haven’t got any. Never even lost power for a minute.

Oh, wait. Yesterday I locked myself out of the house and it took the locksmith THREE HOURS to get there due to so many of the roads being blocked. But he finally made it and everything is fine. Other than that, I got nothing.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/240 "2017-08-31T14:22:46Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Hey guys, I survived the flood too, not that anyone cares.
> 
> In fact I was planning to regale y’all with dramatic, riveting stories of water rescues amid the fire ant rafts, alligators and exploding chemical plants, except…I haven’t got any. Never even lost power for a minute.

Sounds like you were preparing for a [Worst-Case Scenario](https://xkcd.com/748/)…

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