# Aarrggh. Hurricane headed our way **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 24, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517 "2017-08-24T03:20:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/121 "2017-08-26T01:08:36Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I called both of my Senators as well as my congressman today urging no federal money be sent to Texas for this hurricane. Karma is a bitch. Texas chose to elect Ted Cruz and John Cornyn who voted against relief after Hurricane Sandy. They can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps after the storm. Maybe George W Bush can call upon, “heck of a job Brownie.” > > I lived in Dallas from late 2004-2008. At this point, I don’t even want to set foot inside a red state. I don’t wish ill on anyone but I don’t want my tax dollars going to bail out such hypocrites. I’m sorry…WHO are you punishing? Two millionaires? Or supposedly Republican voters along with millions of Democrats who live in Texas. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/122 "2017-08-26T01:19:13Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > 11 years and 10 months since the last major hurricane made landfall in the USA … an all time record time between major hurricane landfalls … perhaps an indication that these types of powerful events are becoming rarer? … Gee, it looks like the climate scientists that me and many others consulted before were more on the money about the number of hurricanes not increasing, \*\*but that when they manage to arrive on land to be stronger than before. \*\* > **[Global Warming and Hurricanes – Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory](https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/)** > > Contents Summary Statement Global Warming and Atlantic Hurricanes Statistical relationships between SSTs and hurricanes Analysis of century-scale Atlantic tropical storm and hurricane frequency Analysis of other observed Atlantic hurricane metrics... Mind you that in studies like that and others I have seen do point to the possibility that the number of hurricanes can increase after the mid century mark, provided that we do not do much about our emissions of course. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/123 "2017-08-26T01:19:31Z")
Texas can pay for their own recovery, in my opinion. However, the Republicans control all three branches of the federal government, so I’m well aware the recovery money and associated pork will be unlimited since Jesus won’t mitigate the damage based on the state’s elected officials. The shitbags in the red states do love to whine about federal spending and they love to praise Jesus. Their assholes Senators voted NO on Hurricane Sandy relief. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/124 "2017-08-26T02:33:59Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > …The shitbags in the red states do love to whine about federal spending and they love to praise Jesus. Their assholes Senators voted NO on Hurricane Sandy relief. There are plenty of people in red states on the left end of the political spectrum, plus I don’t really see why those likely to be on the right end should suffer either. You seem to be seriously lacking compassion. Shitbags like you make it harder for decent folks on the left to actually get a hearing from those who might oppose us. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/125 "2017-08-26T02:49:51Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Texas can pay for their own recovery, in my opinion. However, the Republicans control all three branches of the federal government, so I’m well aware the recovery money and associated pork will be unlimited since Jesus won’t mitigate the damage based on the state’s elected officials. > > The shitbags in the red states do love to whine about federal spending and they love to praise Jesus. Their assholes Senators voted NO on Hurricane Sandy relief. I live in Texas, and I’m not a Republican. How’s about cutting us a bit of slack here? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/126 "2017-08-26T02:54:02Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [When you called Arabs “ragheads,”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17620796#post17620796) what “even worse” comment was that in response to? [When you called Mexicans “wetbacks,”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19945168#post19945168) what “even worse” comment was that in response to? [When you took the loss of life of several American service members to take a swipe at John McCain](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20429789#post20429789), what “even worse” comment was that in response to? Clothahump will NEVER respond to this. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/127 "2017-08-26T03:05:21Z")
Landfall just happened at exactly 10PM CDT, 4 miles east of Rockport, TX. That’s 30 miles ENE of Corpus Christi. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/128 "2017-08-26T03:38:19Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Gee, it looks like the climate scientists that me and many others consulted before were more on the money about the number of hurricanes not increasing, \*\*but that when they manage to arrive on land to be stronger than before. \*\* > > [Global Warming and Hurricanes – Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory](https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/) > > Mind you that in studies like that and others I have seen do point to the possibility that the number of hurricanes can increase after the mid century mark, provided that we do not do much about our emissions of course. Do you have permission from these “many others” to share y’all’s complete ignorance of how exponential functions behave in nature? … you own citation claims these matters are uncertain, try reading it again and this time try reading with comprehension … > [@](#): > > It is premature to conclude that human activities–and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming–have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity. … and it may be decades longer before we can … this is your cite, not mine … The blurb summarizes itself quite nicely: > [@](#): > > In summary, neither our model projections for the 21st century nor our analyses of trends in Atlantic hurricane and tropical storm counts over the past 120+ yr support the notion that greenhouse gas-induced warming leads to large increases in either tropical storm or overall hurricane numbers in the Atlantic. One modeling study projects a large (~100%) increase in Atlantic category 4-5 hurricanes over the 21st century, but we estimate that this increase may not be detectable until the latter half of the century. > > Therefore, we conclude that despite statistical correlations between SST and Atlantic hurricane activity in recent decades, it is premature to conclude that human activity–and particularly greenhouse warming–has already caused a detectable change in Atlantic hurricane activity. (“Detectable” here means the change is large enough to be distinguishable from the variability due to natural causes.) However, human activity may have already caused some some changes that are not yet detectable due to the small magnitude of the changes or observation limitations, or are not yet confidently modeled (e.g., aerosol effects on regional climate). Did’ya catch that part about changes “not yet detectable due to the small magnitude” … there’s absolutely nothing about Hurricane Harvey that can be connected to global warming … and this might be news to you, but Category 4 storms landing in Texas isn’t unusual, it’s a feature of the current climate, no change necessary … But a good citation, I’m impressed with you … it’s good to see you being more agreeable to the notion that any claims of any kind right now are foolishness … ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/129 "2017-08-26T04:03:40Z")
> [@bump](#): > > It’s barely a category 1 hurricane hitting down near Victoria. At worst in Houston, you’ll just get a lot of rain. I wouldn’t sweat it. You’ll be at work on Monday. Well, my bad. Typically hurricanes don’t go from Category 1 to 4 in less than 24 hours. That’s nearly unheard of. Nor do they often do what they’re predicting this one will do, and meander about the coast, instead of heading inland to the NE. So… stay safe everyone down in S. Texas and on the coast! ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/130 "2017-08-26T04:27:19Z")
Yeah **bump** , not likely many folks along the Texas Gulf coast will have electricity on Monday, much less be at work. This looks to be one nasty and undying storm. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/131 "2017-08-26T04:28:12Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > I’m sorry…WHO are you punishing? Two millionaires? Or supposedly Republican voters along with millions of Democrats who live in Texas. If a hurricane had to hit I am glad that it hit a red state, but not for the petty vindictive schadenfreude reasons expressed by many here. Rather because if a red state is hit, then it is likely that it will receive the government assistance it needs. If the Hurricane was set to make land fall at Berkeley CA, you know that Trump wouldn’t raise a finger to assist. Although he might send a gloating tweet. On the bad side this will be the first non-self-inflicted crisis that Trump will have to deal with in which Americans lives may depend on his leadership abilities. So even with thousands of MAGA Trump supporters at risk, he may not be up to the challenge any more than GW Bush was for Katrina. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/132 "2017-08-26T05:38:49Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Did’ya catch that part about changes “not yet detectable due to the small magnitude” … I did you certified idiot. That cite was to reply to your ongoing stupid point that scientists were predicting doomsday hurricanes and often. > [@watchwolf49](#): > > there’s absolutely nothing about Hurricane Harvey that can be connected to global warming … and this might be news to you, but Category 4 storms landing in Texas isn’t unusual, it’s a feature of the current climate, no change necessary … And all that tap dancing only to mostly agree with what I did say. The only dumb thing is your willful ignorance that the point here is that scientists did predict that hurricanes are intensifying in force and going from a cat 1 to 4 in less than 24 hours does fit what was expected in a warming world. > [@watchwolf49](#): > > But a good citation, I’m impressed with you … it’s good to see you being more agreeable to the notion that any claims of any kind right now are foolishness … Contradicting your early stupid point that I was not reading for comprehension. Lets be clear you ellipsis lover and confuser of science: I was correct before and now about scientists not being in the business of predicting hypercanes, they do report that they are unlikely and their numbers are not likely to increase soon, but that the intensity of the hurricanes will increase. And your efforts in other threads to undermine the trust with the climate scientists were dumb. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/133 "2017-08-26T09:25:38Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > 11 years and 10 months since the last major hurricane made landfall in the USA … an all time record time between major hurricane landfalls … perhaps an indication that these types of powerful events are becoming rarer? … > [@watchwolf49](#): > > Did’ya catch that part about changes “not yet detectable due to the small magnitude” … there’s absolutely nothing about Hurricane Harvey that can be connected to global warming … and this might be news to you, but Category 4 storms landing in Texas isn’t unusual, it’s a feature of the current climate, no change necessary … > > But a good citation, I’m impressed with you … it’s good to see you being more agreeable to the notion that any claims of any kind right now are foolishness … You really are a complete fucking moron. [As noted over here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20368450&postcount=3076) in the famous Omnibus Trolls R Us Thread, virtually everything you ever post about climate change – oh, hell, just about everything you ever post about anything – is usually stupidly wrong. A note to the wise reader: don’t believe anything you read in posts that are festooned with ellipses. So you blather on about an article that you claim says that the effect of climate change on hurricanes isn’t yet statistically detectable, yet you just finished stupidly claiming that just because one hasn’t made US landfall in 11 years maybe there are now fewer of them! 😃 If you weren’t a fucking moron you’d understand the hilarity of this, and you’d also know that large numbers of Atlantic hurricanes never make US landfall. You’d also know that records are readily available and they show that an average of 6.36 major Atlantic hurricanes formed every year in the past 11 years, compared to 6.2 annually since the beginning of comprehensive satellite observations in the 60s, so you’re stupidly wrong again – there are more hurricanes forming now than the average over the past half century. **GIGO** is right about hurricane intensity and the research backs him up – however, that’s not a particularly good article on the subject, and it got you completely confused, which admittedly is your constant condition so I can’t really blame the article. But whether it was intentional or not, the article is misleading. It serves to make the basic point for which **GIGO** cited it, but not the extended bullshit that you dredged out of it. One problem is that it talks about “hurricane activity” but in many of the pronouncements they bounce around between talking about frequency and intensity, and fail to clarify which one they mean. There’s no clear statistically meaningful trend in hurricane frequency, but there’s a very clear trend in North Atlantic hurricane energy (particularly as measured by the PDI) which the article mentions but doesn’t highlight clearly enough. A strong source for that is the work of Kerry Emanuel, one of the world’s foremost hurricane researchers: Emanuel (2005) found a strong correlation between the North Atlantic PDI to tropical Atlantic sea surface temperature (SST; r2 = 0.65) … Klotzbach (2006) found a significant increasing linear trend in North Atlantic ACE over the period 1986–2005 (see also Wu et al. 2008), and a statistically significant correlation between North Atlantic SST and ACE. > **[North Atlantic Power Dissipation Index (PDI) and Accumulated Cyclone Energy...](https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/clim/25/2/jcli-d-11-00146.1.xml)** > > Abstract This study focuses on the statistical modeling of the power dissipation index (PDI) and accumulated cyclone energy (ACE) for the North Atlantic basin over the period 1949–2008, which are metrics routinely used to assess tropical storm... In the Atlantic, potential intensity, low-level vorticity, and vertical wind shear strongly covary and are also highly correlated with sea surface temperature ftp://texmex.mit.edu/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/Factors.pdf There’s no doubt that rising SSTs are due to rising global temperatures, and the correlation with higher hurricane energies in the North Atlantic is very strong, so your bloviation that “any claims of any kind right now are foolishness” is more of your usual never-ending bullshit. It’s true that some have questioned the attribution of elevated SSTs in the North Atlantic as the current primary factor in increased hurricane energies so far, as opposed to SST differentials with other ocean basins, yet few question the fundamental long-term role of high SSTs as the engines of hurricane formation. Most acknowledge the likelihood that Atlantic hurricanes will become stronger by the end of the century, along with other forms of extreme weather. I know the article is from GFDL which is part of NOAA, but whoever wrote it seems to be of a skeptical mindset and has actually been misleading in a few areas, such as conflating hurricane frequency and intensity metrics, or citing a paper by Chris Landsea on why hurricane frequency numbers may be inflated. No one is citing frequency numbers as a key metric anyway, and furthermore, Landsea isn’t a particularly trustworthy source. He’s a hot-headed contrarian asshole who once quit his assignment at the IPCC when the consensus of authors disagreed with him, accusing them of conspiracies to push an agenda and getting into public shouting matches with renowned scientists. The article does cite a very good paper by Kerry Emanuel and Michael Mann, but manages to botch that up, too. It summarizes one of its points very poorly and with a denialist mindset. The article says “Mann and Emanuel (2006) hypothesize that a reduction in aerosol-induced cooling over the Atlantic in recent decades may have contributed to the enhanced warming of the tropical North Atlantic”. This makes it sound like Atlantic warming was due to aerosol reductions and not greenhouse gas emissions, but that’s not true and that’s not what the paper says at all. What it says is “ **late twentieth century tropospheric aerosol cooling has offset a substantial fraction of anthropogenic warming in the region and has thus likely suppressed even greater potential increases in tropical cyclone activity.** ” – IOW, the paper reaffirms the role of anthropogenic greenhouse gases in raising sea surface temperatures and reaffirms their effect on hurricane formation, which effect would have been even stronger had it not been for aerosol cooling in part of the second half of the 20th century. From the article, the reader might be left with the opposite impression of what the Mann and Emanuel paper was really saying. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/134 "2017-08-26T11:25:10Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > [When you called Arabs “ragheads,”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=17620796#post17620796) what “even worse” comment was that in response to? [When you called Mexicans “wetbacks,”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19945168#post19945168) what “even worse” comment was that in response to? [When you took the loss of life of several American service members to take a swipe at John McCain](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20429789#post20429789), what “even worse” comment was that in response to? It is very simple, Yosemite Sam is a very sensitive crybaby so anything that is not celebrating his racist bigotry is completely horrible criticism, but the bigoted crybaby has no self awareness and is a gross hypocrite, so thinkings everyonehas to accept his racist bigotry… ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/135 "2017-08-26T11:37:02Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I called both of my Senators as well as my congressman today urging no federal money be sent to Texas for this hurricane. Karma is a bitch. Texas chose to elect Ted Cruz and John Cornyn who voted against relief after Hurricane Sandy. They can pull themselves up by their own bootstraps after the storm. Maybe George W Bush can call upon, “heck of a job Brownie.” > > I lived in Dallas from late 2004-2008. At this point, I don’t even want to set foot inside a red state. I don’t wish ill on anyone but I don’t want my tax dollars going to bail out such hypocrites. If a storm would strike only those who deserve it, that would be one thing. In reality, though, it’ll just cause problems for people who need help and really don’t give a shit about politics. That’s the problem with conservative bullies. The bullies get to be assholes and it’s hard to bully them back without injuring innocent people. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/136 "2017-08-26T14:12:34Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Oh my gosh! What IF alligators? > > Please god, don’t let an alligator bite **Clothahump**. I think they’re an endangered species. On summer 2018 in all local theaters: ALLIGATORNADO. And if Clothahump loses his business, he can do stunts and maybe become a movie star. Although I don’t think he would want live in California, you know, all those libtards around… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/137 "2017-08-26T15:05:49Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Is that German for “the the sexing the”? I don’t get the reference (?) … Oh! Now I get it. Die = The Subtle 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/138 "2017-08-26T15:06:50Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > On summer 2018 in all local theaters: ALLIGATORNADO. > > And if Clothahump loses his business, he can do stunts and maybe become a movie star. > Although I don’t think he would want live in California, you know, all those libtards around… But the pay can be good. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/139 "2017-08-26T15:10:38Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > On the bad side this will be the first non-self-inflicted crisis that Trump will have to deal with in which Americans lives may depend on his leadership abilities. So even with thousands of MAGA Trump supporters at risk, he may not be up to the challenge any more than GW Bush was for Katrina. I predict trump and his minions will find some way to fuck up and make things worse. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517/140 "2017-08-26T15:13:02Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > If a storm would strike only those who deserve it, that would be one thing. In reality, though, it’ll just cause problems for people who need help and really don’t give a shit about politics. That’s the problem with conservative bullies. The bullies get to be assholes and it’s hard to bully them back without injuring innocent people. Let’s just wait an appropriate amount of time and then declare the storm to be God’s judgement. Just like they do all the time. Earthquakes? God Fires? God Hurricane on east coast? God 9/11 attack in NYC? God. etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aarrggh-hurricane-headed-our-way/794517.md?page=8)