# Abandon Every Hope.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 4, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524 "2015-10-04T18:39:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/101 "2015-10-09T04:36:33Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> I wanted to be a writer. How did I get on math track? Only my parents know.

Your parents forced you to study mathematics?

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/102 "2015-10-09T04:44:31Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> What are you doing, waiting until 1987 to start? Go right out and start smoking at least a couple of packs of cigarettes each day. The pounds will just melt right off. And none of those wimpy “filtered” cigarettes, or even more wimpy e-cigs. Smoke several packs each day of real unfilitered cigarettes. And find the nearest bar to spend each evening drinking until you have to crawl home. I guarantee that your social life will improve. Later, we’ll find a motorcycle club for you to join.

You will not call my beloved ecigs wimpy! My lungs could not withstand more than a few cigs a day, but with an ecig I can consume packs and packs worth of nic a day with no downside!

Cigs are wimpy, like going from chewing coca leaves to snorting grams of pure cocaine!🙂

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/103 "2015-10-09T11:09:09Z")

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The main reason you will not change is because you don’t have to. You have enabling parents and a place (here) to listen to your complaining. Hunger is a great motivator, and you have none.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/104 "2015-10-09T11:29:57Z")

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> [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](#):
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> The main reason you will not change is because you don’t have to. You have enabling parents and a place (here) to listen to your complaining. Hunger is a great motivator, and you have none.

Not much we can do about the enabling parents, but here, we can simply respond with math problems.

No. That would be cruel.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/105 "2015-10-09T16:36:34Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Motorcycling?! I’m confused. How is riding a motorcycle _at all_ like being an alcoholic?

Taking unnecessary risks like motorcycling or smoking or drinking is not for me.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/106 "2015-10-09T16:37:34Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Too bad you’re too old to write.

No – not even half too old to write.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/107 "2015-10-09T16:50:42Z")

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> [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](#):
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> The main reason you will not change is because you don’t have to.

Why should I change?

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/108 "2015-10-09T18:19:46Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Why should I change?

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/109 "2015-10-09T18:24:32Z")

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Strange as it is I am all for minor changes – like finding a few friends.

I am not into major change.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/110 "2015-10-09T18:27:55Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Strange as it is I am all for minor changes – like finding a few friends.
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> I am not into major change.

Ok, then how about you start with the minor change of stopping use of that annoying, pointless red font

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/111 "2015-10-09T18:28:39Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> Ok, then how about you start with the minor change of stopping use of that annoying, pointless red don’t?

That expresses my emotions.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/112 "2015-10-09T18:30:38Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> That expresses my emotions.

How so?

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/113 "2015-10-09T18:32:46Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m afraid he’s already said too much.

I’m afraid he’s already red too much.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/114 "2015-10-09T18:34:25Z")

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I feel like I may have linked to this under similar circumstances, but [relevant Toothpaste for Dinner comic.](http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/090302/complaining-is-easier.gif)

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/115 "2015-10-09T21:21:57Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> How so?

Emotions are not bleak.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/116 "2015-10-09T21:23:30Z")

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> [@Catamount](#):
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> I feel like I may have linked to this under similar circumstances, but [relevant Toothpaste for Dinner comic.](http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/090302/complaining-is-easier.gif)

Complaining is better then doing many things:

– alcohol

– drugs

– motorcycles

– any self destructive behavior

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/117 "2015-10-09T21:30:10Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Complaining is better then doing many things:

It doesn’t say better, it says easier.

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/118 "2015-10-09T21:39:57Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Complaining is better then doing many things:
> 
> – alcohol
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> – drugs
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> – motorcycles
> 
> – any self destructive behavior

CCitizen… you say you want to complain but not make changes. What you really mean is that you are just lonely and want to make more friends. You even admitted you want to make more friends. If you are isolated geographically and socially that is not your fault, ok?

But you are going about this wrong. You are unhappy, lonely, depressed, how ever you want to describe it. So… you want people to talk to.

So… talk to people about random topics. Interact with people and make friends and talk about history or current events. This is what you need to do instead of asking for advice when you don’t really want advice. If you want to have friends online… just talk to people about history and current events.

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**Author:** ![Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@Bad\_News\_Baboon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_News_Baboon)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/119 "2015-10-09T23:08:00Z")

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[Emotional vampire](http://http://markmanson.net/are-you-an-emotional-vampire)

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandon-every-hope/733524/120 "2015-10-09T23:13:11Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> Complaining is better then doing many things:
> 
> – alcohol
> 
> – drugs
> 
> – motorcycles

Incorrect. In moderation, and with the right precautions, none of the above is bad for you.

> [@CCitizen](#):
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> – any self destructive behavior

You may not think so, or maybe you’ve simply resigned to accept the risk, but you are currently exhibiting some very destructive behaviour.

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