# Abandoned formats making a significant comeback **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 2, 2021, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535 "2021-01-02T18:58:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535/163 "2021-04-22T21:07:55Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What do CDs compare to vinyl in frequency response? 20-20K, flat, for CDs, with 90dB dynamic range, 90dB channel separation, 0 rumble 20-20K, in practice, up to 50K in some records, with 60dB dynamic range, 25-30 db channel separation -70ish dB rumble Wow and flutter is also an important spec in vinyl, non-existant in CDs, but that depends on the turntable, not the vinyl. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535/164 "2021-04-22T21:52:54Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > So your condescension is not only offensive, but wasted. Yeah, but my parties were more fun. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535/165 "2021-04-22T23:19:59Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > My minds been officially blown. For a few years Iā€™ve heard people talk about the Miata being a good car for emos, and I didnā€™t understand this up until now and thought it was because of their/our penchant for ironically liking things, that and it has two seats so itā€™s easier to be alone in. > > But emos also have a penchant for lo-fi and immediacy and retro, so upon reading these posts I can see why they might like the Miata for its low tech and retroness. Sorry for a late reply - havenā€™t been in this thread for awhile. I havenā€™t ever thought of emo as being retro/lo-fi, at least as I know it. Emo music doesnā€™t seem to be lo-fi. The couple Miata owners I know are car enthusiasts that like it for many reasons including their low cost. As a motorcycle rider, Iā€™ve enjoyed driving them since they give you some of the same feelings . I can see myself getting one at some point and I am definitely not emo nor hipster who seems to be more associated with retro/lo-fi in these parts. Full-disclosure: I used to own an MG and loved driving it! Didnā€™t love the upkeep. Miata seems like a reliable modern version. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535/166 "2021-04-22T23:39:38Z")
Yeah, Iā€™d say Curmudgeon, not Emo. ā€œDammit, I want to change my own gears and crank my own windows!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535/167 "2021-04-22T23:55:44Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Like, for example, I have no idea what number is at the West or North positions of my speedometer (Iā€™ve had this car for 5 years, and an older model of the same one ā€“ Mazda 3 ā€“ for ten years before that.) Iā€™m sure many of you do. I donā€™t. Iā€™m guessing somewhere around 30 and 70, but Iā€™m not sure. And I have no idea if my wifeā€™s car is the same. Iā€™m assuming speedometers on various cars differ in the way theyā€™re scaled. Itā€™s just easier and quicker for me to glance at the number and know exactly where Iā€™m at when Iā€™m approaching the speed camera or entering a school zone rather than look at my analog dial. > > _walks out to cars_ > > Huh. Itā€™s 20 to the west and 80 to the north on both. Is it standardized on cars? Have I been driving nearly 30 years and just only now noticed this? I once read somewhere that itā€™s a psychological thing. Apparently a lot of people are discomfited by have the speedometer needle near the top end of the range when theyā€™re on the highway. ---
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2021, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535/168 "2021-04-22T23:57:27Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Full-disclosure: I used to own an MG and loved driving it! Didnā€™t love the upkeep. Miata seems like a reliable modern version. Thatā€™s exactly the reason I bought one. My real dream car is an old Triumph TR6, or Iā€™d settle for an MG, but I donā€™t want to deal with maintaining a 40something year old British car. A Miata is pretty much the reliable, modern equivalent. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535/169 "2021-04-23T13:33:39Z")
I think once we retire (9ā€™ish years) will be when we get one. My MG wouldā€™ve turned 50 this year. I wonder if it is still around? I sold it almost 20 years ago. I also love the looks of the TR6s. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abandoned-formats-making-a-significant-comeback/929535.md?page=8)