# ABC bows to PC. God I hate people sometimes... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 17, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277 "2004-11-17T15:57:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/21 "2004-11-17T19:35:53Z")
I for one am outraged. I saw naked shoulder and had to pluck my eyes out. Actually I was more offended that the Eagles won. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/22 "2004-11-17T19:52:41Z")
> [@tremorviolet](#): > > Wow, isn’t amazing how ABC makes a “mistake” and suddenly _everyone_ is talking about how ABC and this scandalous new show they want to promote? :dubious: I heard this on the news last night, and that was my first thought. Funny, though… I watched the game on Monday, tuning in about 5 minutes after kick-off, so I missed the whole thing! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/23 "2004-11-17T21:07:01Z")
[At least one of those ABC stations](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/12/business/media/12abc.html) refused to air _Saving Private Ryan_. Nice double standard there, guys! ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/24 "2004-11-17T21:12:12Z")
Talk about prudish !!! As I’ve stated here many times, John Ashcroft thought the nude statue required clothing. However, he had no qualms about letting his “friends” obtain a draft deferment for him because his job (teaching law in Missouri) was deemed “vital” to National Security and he avoided the Vietnam War. Now _that’s_ obscene. Okay, no more politics. About a year or two ago, some station (may have even been a cable station - but NOT premium cable) advertised it would show “The Godfather” uncut. Well sure enough, ALL the rough language was there, you got to see James Caan being shot about 100 times. However, the wedding night scene between Al Pacino and Simonetta Steffanelli which must contain all of 5 seconds of a topless woman, was “electronically obscured” around Ms Steffanelli’s bosom. Geez we are a nation of prudes. Oh when I clicked on that sports link from posting #1, it goes to a Sports Illustrated site and did you notice the ad for Beefeater Gin? Yes, nothing like booze to epitomize the nobility of competitive sports!!! ---
**Author:** ![JohnBckWLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JohnBckWLD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnBckWLD)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/25 "2004-11-17T21:16:17Z")
“Mistake” ?!? … Exactly! True, they’re owned by Disney and hence must be PC (Miramax notwithstanding). Yeah, I’m sure a few people called to complain. Yes, Janets nipple is perky. But ABC was cross-promoting a soap opera during a football game and is using this ‘apology’ in a cheap ‘ratings booster’ kind of way. Maybe I’m overly skeptical, but I think anyone who views this ABC apology as anything less than a publicity stunt is being hoodwinked. Ignoring the handful of cranks who complained about a towel clad woman bearing her shoulder wouldn’t have generated any publicity at all. ---
**Author:** ![shelbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@shelbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shelbo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/26 "2004-11-17T21:22:28Z")
I’m with **tremorviolet** on this one. I suspect that any of the initial complaints phoned in to the FCC were made by ABC staffers. By the way, re: adultery – the character the woman plays on the show is divorced, so unless TO got married sometime and I missed it (entirely possible), the commercial doesn’t allude to adultry. Cheap sex, sure, but not adultry. On the show, the only current adultry line is with the young gorgeous ex-model who’s having an adulterous affair with the gardener (who is in high school). I swear, I watch it for the articles! ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/27 "2004-11-17T21:26:56Z")
From [King Kaufman](http://www.salon.com/news/sports/col/kaufman/2004/11/17/wednesday/index.html): > [@](#): > > “We’re extremely disappointed in ABC,” the NFL said in a statement, “for airing a promo in which Ms. Sheridan showed nearly as much skin as the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders would show seconds later and for the rest of the night, and not nearly as much as all NFL teams’ cheerleading squads show in the officially licensed calendars that are sold in every mall in the country to kids of all ages. And speaking of the Eagles have you seen their cheerleaders’ lingerie calendar? Shoo-wee!” > … > Because won’t someone think of the children? That’s all the NFL wants to know and all I’m asking. Won’t someone think of the children? I certainly don’t want my son to grow up thinking there are good-looking older women out there who one day might make googly eyes at him. Nossir, I want him playing violent video games with the other kids, like those ones the NFL licenses, in which players do celebratory dances over the crumpled bodies of injured opponents. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/28 "2004-11-17T22:06:59Z")
I thought it was amusing and, I hasten to point out, not so much worse than most beer commercials (which is why I love beer commercials.) I wonder if the NFL had a bigger problem with the blatant self-promtion than with the near-naked lady… ---
**Author:** ![LilyoftheValley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilyoftheValley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilyoftheValley)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/29 "2004-11-18T01:29:32Z")
[What the…](http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3172694) > [@](#): > > Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy found it racially offensive. > > “To me that’s the first thing I thought of as an African-American,” Dungy said Wednesday. > > “I think it’s stereotypical in looking at the players, and on the heels of the Kobe Bryant incident I think it’s very insensitive. I don’t think that they would have had Bill Parcells or Andy Reid or one of the owners involved in that,” he added, a reference to the coaches in the game. Sometimes, only a :rolleyes: will do. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/30 "2004-11-18T01:48:59Z")
I have to agree with GorillaMan that this is not about PC. In the PC world, breast are merely mammary glands, and our sisters should be able to walk with them freely exposed to nature’s goodness and swinging all the way to the ground, should we all be so unlucky. 😛 And there should be world peace. ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/31 "2004-11-18T06:40:35Z")
I saw a woman bitching about this on TV. She then went back to the Super Bowl and how she was watching it with her 12 yo daughter and had to “explain it to her” when JJ slipped her nip. I just don’t get it, hadn’t her daughter ever seen a nipple? What is there to explain? And hell, you only saw it for about 1/2 second. ---
**Author:** ![LuckyMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e36b37/32.png) [@LuckyMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LuckyMe)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/32 "2004-11-18T12:58:52Z")
Am I the only one tired of hearing about this. What actually is the problem. Is it because its implied that a big black man man is about to bump uglies with miss blonde america. Or is it the fact that he made a man decision by deciding to roll around the the hay with with a woman instead rolling around in the grass with men. Or is it even the new hate TO topic. Either way all of you bitching just SHUT THE FUCK UP. I’ve seen worse on TRL. Oh, thats cable that donesn’t count you say. I distinctly remember watching watching Crocidile Dundee as a child and it was far worse thatn that MNF skit. Remeber the lead actress in that thong bent over bathing in the swamp. That was so hot and more racy than that and that was tv airing. This was a freaking family movie. WE didn’t any of this bitching. Please oh please I do not wanna hear another god damn thing about this. Actually if you’re gonna complain about a woman clad in a towel you don’t have enough testicular fortitude to even watch foot ball. Turn it to PBS you ASSHOLES. ---
**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/33 "2004-11-18T13:56:00Z")
I finally saw the spot on iFilm this morning. A few thoughts: 1. Terrell Owens seemed to be the better actor. 2. _That’s_ Nicolette Sheridan? Eww. I expected someone… I don’t know… attractive. 3. Word to whoever made the “left nothing to the imagination” crack. I imagined more than that when I was in the 3rd grade. 4. I’d be most offended that my daughter\* was exposed to some very stilted acting. If she saw that and asked to watch “Desperate Housewives” I’d say “Absolutely not young lady! Now go to your room and watch _Memento_ again!” \*caveat: my daughter has not been born yet (March 7, 2005) ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/34 "2004-11-18T14:05:03Z")
> [@Evil Captor](#): > > Um, and which half was naked? The good half? Or the other half? I’m offended that someone thinks that Nicolette Sheridan has a bad half. It’s always amusing (in an annoyed sort of way) when I see an entertaining commercial aired only once or twice before getting pulled. Anyone remember the one with the family at a wake, and the widow is all distraught over the loss of her husband until she sees a Netflix envelope come through the mail slot? What the fuck was so offensive about that? Was it because the family was black? ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/35 "2004-11-18T14:27:47Z")
No nipple, no butt, no bush. Sheesh. Tempest in a teapot. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/36 "2004-11-18T14:45:36Z")
I’m surprised no one has pointed out the " I’ve just got to have sex with you right now" look that Nicolette Sheridan put on right after she dropped the towel. That is the part that stirred my loins. That is one good actress. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/37 "2004-11-18T16:33:27Z")
Some of you really have a misunderstanding of what _PC_ means. The outrage over this ad is not from the PC crowd. The racial difference didn’t enter my mind at all until I heard some men complaining that it stereotyped the Black male. It seemed an unusual way to open a football game, but if ABC wants to buck the FCC and their prudishness, more power to them. As for the father who didn’t want to explain to his nine year old son, it is time that his son started asking questions. He’s lucky that his son asked _him_. He doesn’t have to go into a lot of detail. ---
**Author:** ![Tuco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tuco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuco)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/38 "2004-11-18T17:22:42Z")
Am I the only one annoyed that the article links to this Terrel bloke but not Niccollette? They could at least have put a link to the video so I can see what all the fuss is about, sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/39 "2004-11-18T19:42:27Z")
CBS, at least, knows that sort of thing is inappropriate until halftime. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/40 "2004-11-18T19:55:46Z")
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