# ABC bows to PC.  God I hate people sometimes...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 17, 2004, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277 "2004-11-17T15:57:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/41 "2004-11-18T20:25:45Z")

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Hell, after those election results, the whole world _knows_ we’re pathetic.

(Gotta dig up the spot on iFilm later…)

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/42 "2004-11-18T21:47:05Z")

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Thank god the election got mentioned in yet another thread.

I still hold to my earlier post. Nobody butt fucked a goat, what good is it?

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**Author:** ![Dob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Dob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dob)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2004, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/43 "2004-11-18T23:32:33Z")

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> I still hold to my earlier post. Nobody butt fucked a goat, what good is it?

holy crap that mental image is now burned into my eyes!! ack!

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**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/44 "2004-11-19T04:26:57Z")

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From [CNNSI.com](http://CNNSI.com)’s _10 Spot_ article by Pete McEntegart:

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> FCC chairman Michael Powell took Disney-owned ABC to task, musing, “I wonder if Walt Disney would be proud.” In fact, ABC insiders say Walt would prefer family fare like The Bachelor, where he would relish seeing how many women the “star” can make out with each week.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/45 "2004-11-19T04:59:20Z")

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> [@Trunk](#):
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> I bet we didn’t hear shit-all about it if Terrell Owens was white.
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> Some honkies are still pissed about O.J.

It’s not the honkies that are complaining about the race issue on this one, it’s martyrs like Tony “I forgot what defense was” Dungy.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/46 "2004-11-19T05:06:24Z")

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Are there any cites about complaints on the race (non)issue? Or just speculation? (Like what DL Hughley joked about last night on that old Craiggers show.)

I’m not saying no one anywhere wasn’t bugged by the black on white aspect, I’m sure some were. But everything I’ve seen online or heard on sports talk was simply that they felt it was innappropriate for a “family show,” whatever that means.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/47 "2004-11-19T07:25:44Z")

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I for one was very bugged about this cruddy synergy stunt on TV. An implied nude woman in a men’s locker room. That’s so basal, I mean just about half of porn is about that scenario. Can’t the ABC executives think of something more creative than reverting to something more fitting to Girls Gone Wild?

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/48 "2004-11-19T12:13:00Z")

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Jim Rome is making a good point on ESPN right now. If the offending ad was so offensive, what about the cheesecake TV shots of the cheerleaders’ T&A, pats on the ass after big plays, and Viagra/Levitra/Cialis commercials?

Oh, and Owens is a dirtbag. Just thought I’d throw that in as a freebie.

Robin

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/49 "2004-11-23T12:34:57Z")

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Surprise, surprise. I love watching this blow up in those morons faces.

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> Demonstrating once again that there’s nothing like a bit of controversy to boost ratings, ABC’s Desperate Housewives delivered \*\*its biggest audience yet \*\*Sunday night as it recorded a 17.5 rating and a 24 share in the 9:00 hour…

[http://imdb.com/news/sb/#tv1](http://imdb.com/news/sb/#tv1)

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2004, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/50 "2004-11-23T20:53:45Z")

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It may be the WWE Professional rasslin’, but this is a pretty funny parody.

[http://www.trishstratus.8k.com/videos/112204.WMV](http://www.trishstratus.8k.com/videos/112204.WMV)

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**Author:** ![tremorviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tremorviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tremorviolet)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/51 "2004-11-29T22:08:02Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Surprise, surprise. I love watching this blow up in those morons faces.

It didn’t “blow-up” in anyone’s faces, it did _exactly_ what it was supposed to do. It kept the “moral issues” thing on the front burner like the conservatives wanted and also delivered higher ratings. Check out this [NYT article](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/28/arts/28rich.html?oref=login). (registration required, bugmenot has a work around)

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> Though seen nationwide, and as early as 6 p.m. on the West Coast, the spot initially caused so little stir that the next morning only two newspapers in the country, both in Philadelphia, reported on it. ABC’s switchboards were not swamped by shocked viewers on Monday night. A spokesman for ABC Sports told The Philadelphia Inquirer that he hadn’t received a single phone call or e-mail in the immediate aftermath of the broadcast.

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> Mr. Owens’s agent, David Joseph, says that the flood of complaints at his office and Mr. Owens’s Web site also didn’t start until more than 24 hours after the incident - late Tuesday and early Wednesday. Were any of these complainants actual victims (or even viewers) of “Monday Night Football” or were they just a mob assembled after the fact by “family” groups, emboldened by their triumph in smiting “Saving Private Ryan” from 66 ABC stations the week before? Though the F.C.C. said on Wednesday that it had received 50,000 complaints about the N.F.L. affair, it couldn’t determine how many of them were duplicates - the kind generated by e-mail campaigns run by political organizations posting form letters ready to be clicked into cyberspace ad infinitum by anyone who has an index finger and two seconds of idle time.

Face it. The whole thing was a scam, both on the part of ABC and the “moral issues” crowd…

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**Author:** ![beergeek279](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@beergeek279](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beergeek279)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/52 "2004-11-29T22:26:02Z")

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Well, I suppose it makes sense, since the NFL goes out of its way to protect sponsors from competition…and the only way for a NFL Sanctioned Erection is by using Levitra ;).

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-bows-to-pc-god-i-hate-people-sometimes/275277/53 "2004-11-29T22:50:07Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> Besides, if they turned the TV off, they might miss the next atrocity. If they don’t see it, who’s going to complain?

This is exactly it. It reminds me a bit of the old joke:

“So mother, how do you like your new retirement home?”

“It’s NO GOOD. The young man in the house next door walks around naked.”

“B…but mother, you can’t see into his house from your windows.”

“JUST YOU TRY STANDING ON THAT TABLE!!!”

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