I’m a semi-retired NYC hedge fund guy, and no one I know has ever done a trade with him. It’s a scam pure and simple. I remember when Madoff’s returns came across my desk and I asked someone to find out what kind of arbitrage he was doing because his Sharpe Ratio (measure of risk/reward) was 3 - which you just don’t get without some sort of arbitrage strategy. They came back and said he sold covered calls. I told him either his information was wrong or it’s a scam. It’s not like I was particularly prescient - there isn’t a single professional trader in history who would believe his returns were plausible. How he didn’t get caught before he did is completely outside my realm of comprehension. Can’t wait to hear what Epstein’s scam was. With all those cameras I’m guessing it was blackmail.
Democrats shouldn’t be defending Bill Clinton, here or anywhere. Every allegation should be treated seriously, and the allegations against Bill Clinton in the past weren’t taken seriously. The party has actually improved on this issue, unlike the Republicans who have actually regressed (now, it’s pretty much routine for Republican officials to dismiss allegations of rape and celebrate/elevate admitted and credibly accused sexual abusers). But improving isn’t nearly enough. We should be taking every allegation seriously, and there’s no reason at all for credibly accused sexual abusers in the party to be defended.
The Republican party is the Party of Rape and the Party of Rapists. In order to beat them in the long term (and to have a chance at improving the abominable way that our society treats women and girls and victims/survivors in general), we need to be the party that moves past rapists and sexual abusers, including those credibly accused. We have plenty of good candidates and advocates with no credible allegations against them.
This is an utterly myopic post, especially from someone from Virginia. Who is the Party of Rapists again?
Whataboutism, like Monday morning quarterbacking is not a good argument.
As the rest of your post showed, it is clear that you do want to ignore the evidence that shows how the powerful (and specially tabloid right wing media) spiked and prevented other outfits to get corroborating evidence.
The Republicans, quite obviously, who continuously celebrate and elevate admitted and credibly accused sexual abusers. If the Democratic party celebrates and elevates Justin Fairfax, then maybe you’d have a tiny smidgen point, but it seems pretty clear to me that he has absolutely no future in the Democratic party. Perhaps he’ll become a Republican – I’m sure they’d welcome him with open arms.
IIRC, many Democrats in the General Assembly in Virginia asked Justin Fairfax to resign, until more comes out I still think that more pressure is needed to investigate the incidents, and he had to leave his post as chairman of the Democratic Lieutenant Governors Association.
FWIW the Republicans in a lot of their ads did play a lot on the rape allegations, as it turned out, it was really hard to gain traction in Virginia with those accusations, when the fearless Republican leader has many, many more and the number of Republicans demanding that he resigns because of those allegations is…
The Dems still celebrate and elevate JFK.
Ohhh…the Dems who control Virginia could impeach him but party before justice, right?
But this is a moronic debate because press coverage of Dems and Reps is not equal and it obviously favors and protects Dems. So we wont be getting equal and fair coverage of this issue. And your use of loaded language isnt helping.
JFK is long dead. And yes, the Democratic party used to be a Party of Rape and a Party of Rapists. But they’ve actually started to change. The Republican party was the same… and now they’ve gotten even worse. Much, much worse.
The Democrats do not, in fact, control Virginia. Soon they’ll take control of the legislature, and we’ll see what they do. If they celebrate and elevate Fairfax like the Republicans have celebrated/elevated Trump, Kavanaugh, and others, then you’ll have a point and I’ll come back and congratulate you.
I’m just looking at the facts, and the words of the GOP President. The GOP elevated and celebrates Trump, continuously, when he has bragged about sexual assault and violations of consent on multiple occasions, and has numerous credible allegations of rape and sexual assault against him. The GOP is the Party of Trump – the Party of Sexual Abuse.
This is fair enough. Who is the fearless Rep leader? Trump? I predict that the Reps will pursue a 25th Amendment solution to the Trump nightmare and he will be out before Christmas. No one likes him. No one respects him. And politically he is a Rep in name only. Ideologically, he is apolitical and only pursued office to pursue his own narcissistic goals and achieve what he imagines will be greatness.
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Not sure about using that example, I would have thought that getting a bullet to his head would have been an excessive punishment. But more seriously, I only point at that as an explanation why in part is that he is elevated, if Kennedy had survived I would expect rape allegations to have been more prominently mentioned.
Of course also being very capable and helping avoid a nuclear holocaust and thus allowing me and you to post on the internet now is also something to take into account.
BTW, just try to see a documentary on the Cuban Missile Crisis and picture the current rapist/moron in power in the place of Kennedy back then, I do think that you will not sleep soundly at night…
Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and kicking. That guy lives rent-free in so many people’s heads, everything is about him.
It might be hard to understand that some people really think sexual abuse of women and girls is a truly terrible thing, and actually transcends politics… but it’s true. Some of us really oppose sexual assault and rape, even in our own party!
I heartily recommend the stance for others. Why not try it?
While I dont disagree with your post, and agree that Kennedy did a good job managing the crisis, Khrushchev was bluffing and both the Americans and Soviets blundered badly by letting things get so far. The fact that a lone Soviet nuclear sub commander came the closest to starting a nuclear war says it all. How US intelligence agencies let 40K battle hardened Soviet soldiers enter Cuba without being detected was a massive intelligence failure. That Kennedy didnt have a good working relationship with Khrushchev was another blunder that brought both countries to the brink of war.
Indeed, blinders were made by both sides, but the point stands as it was about how to get out of a crisis like that needs a capable hand.
We are still lucky that such a crisis has not come while we have this current administration, but we are close to that IMHO.
As for the matter at hand, The National Enquirer is still pointed out as one group that stopped and prevented accusers to come forward.
Can someone please link to The Video that everyone is talking about?
Maybe Clinton is very guilty. I wrote my comment before reading posts asserting visits to Pedo Island with the Secret Service ditched behind.
OTOH:
If you had to bet, would you guess Blasey Ford (his principal accuser) speaks the truth or not? I am NOT asking whether proof was ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ (or whatever you think the standard is for Scotus appointment). I am NOT asking whether you think frat-boy pranks should disqualify. I just wonder what your judgment is of the likelihood Ford was truthful. (Yes, this is a test. 
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I know the party line for “conservatives” ( ) is that Ford was lying. My knowledge of human nature tells me they’re probably wrong. Recall that Ford isn’t an hysterical Trump-hater; she’s a respected academic who came forward reluctantly.
In another thread you refused to make a probability estimate. Are you going to go with that cop-out again?
Very large parties; large buildings on Pedophile Island; large numbers of girls. What does Occam’s Razor tell you?
Recall that Jane Doe claims she was threatened with death if she pursued her rape charge against Trump. Maybe she was, maybe not. But it is quite naïve to doubt that men like Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Mohammad bin Salman (and yes, perhaps Epstein or Clinton) have thugs they can turn to to make or complete a death threat.
JFK had lots of very consensual sex. Times were different. It wasnt even much of a secret.
No “rapes”, no underaged girls.
You win 20 Virtue points. When you get to 150 you can exchange them for an ice-cream, one scoop.
My point with DRS is not that he is guilty or not, is that some people have to make absolutely everything about him. This thread is about ABC and Epstein and why they hid the story and you want to make it about Trump.
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So, that’s the rule, “knowledge of human nature” for a rape accusation? Even when everyone else in the story says it’s wrong? Would you accept it against you?
As already shown with many examples, it is about the how rightist media was also part of the efforts to cover up this, causing extreme frustration to media like ABC. That the coverup was to protect Trump also is an important thing to notice.
Not who you asked, but it became very clear at the hearings that she was almost certainly not telling the truth, and that it was almost certain that they were never at a party where the alleged attack could have happened.