# ABC News shit the bed by publishing fake news on Friday. They know it too. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 5, 2017, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-news-shit-the-bed-by-publishing-fake-news-on-friday-they-know-it-too/803598 "2017-12-05T02:55:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 46
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-news-shit-the-bed-by-publishing-fake-news-on-friday-they-know-it-too/803598/46 "2017-12-05T15:22:27Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > If a Planned Parenthood employee says that they are being harassed for being a baby-killer, do you take it that this employee considers himself to be a baby-killer? Not necessarily, although I don’t think it’s a clear denial of the accusation either. > [@Ravenman](#): > > I think the plain reading of remark you quoted is a reference to the criticism being levied against ABC News, not a commentary about how the president of ABC News sees his company’s reporting. > > If there’s any additional context to the remarks, other than what was in the CNN article, I could change my mind, of course. I think that’s one possible reading of the quote. For example, if Al Franken / John Conyers said they were being absolutely pilloried for sexual assault, I wouldn’t take it necessarily as a denial of the claims against them, just an observation on the result. Given the context of this remark (an internal company call) I think it’s more likely that Goldston was trying to impress the gravity of the error on his staff, not offer a denial (or an admission) to the “fake news” accusation. > [@Ravenman](#): > > I think Fox News clearly goes into each day with an intent to relay a politically-driven narrative of the news, which is decided by the executive leadership of the company in consultation with various conservative political leaders/groups. I don’t think ABC News does anything like this. … Perhaps. I’d probably rate ABC News as a whole as more interested in playing things straight than Fox (although I’m not sure Brian Ross merits that assumption at this point), but I don’t believe that, for example, MSNBC is (see below). > [@running\_coach](#): > > Most recent example from Fox. > When the Flynn story broke, Clinton’s emails were the prominent story-large headline, top-middle of the page. > The Flynn story was “below the fold”, in a sidebar, small thumbnail. > I haven’t seen that kind of treatment on a major breaking story by any of the other mainstream news sites. I actually found even worse behavior from MSNBC: > [@Now, Al Franken](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/now-al-franken/801770/500): > > The headlines at various news outlets are a bit comical this morning: > > Fox News: Al Done? Grope-gate puts Franken’s Senate future in jeopardy as critics call for resignation > > CNN: Trump blasts Franken but stays silent on Moore > > MSNBC: _crickets_ a search of ‘Franken’ on the home page can’t uncover a single mention. It’s down the memory-hole for them. Perhaps you don’t count MSNBC as a “mainstream news site” either though. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abc-news-shit-the-bed-by-publishing-fake-news-on-friday-they-know-it-too/803598)._