# Abducted 11-year old turns up 18 years later **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 27, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938 "2009-08-27T18:37:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/1 "2009-08-27T18:37:42Z")
(this is, or soon will be, a huge story, but I didn’t see any other thread on it. I don’t think it’s RO but if a mod does, it can be moved to the Pit) [According the her FBI page](http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/dugard.htm), “Jaycee Lee Dugard was last seen as she walked to her bus stop in South Lake Tahoe, California, on June 10, 1991. It has been claimed that she was abducted by two individuals, a male and a female) who were driving a car. However, extensive law enforcement investigations since the time of her disappearance have neither identified any abductors nor revealed the location of the victim.” Now, she seems to have reappeared. > [@](#): > > [Kidnapping mystery that has affected Calif. town since 1991 may come to an end.](http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=8426124) > > A California stepfather who heard his little girl scream as she was abducted 18 years ago said she has been found alive and well and her captors are in custody. > > A woman claiming to be Jaycee Lee Dugard, now 29, walked into a police station in tiny Antioch, Calif., Wednesday, her stepfather Carl Probyn told [ABCNews.com](http://ABCNews.com) today. Based on conversations his wife has had with police, the FBI and the woman herself, Probyn said the family is convinced Jaycee has been found. > > … > > Probyn said he doesn’t have any details of what had happened to Jaycee for the last 18 years or who abducted her, but he claims that the FBI told his wife that “they have Jaycee and the people she was with.” > > “She sounds like she’s okay,” he said. “She had a conversation with my wife and she remembers things. I hope she’s been well treated this entire 18 years.” > > No DNA test has been done to confirm the woman’s claims, but Probyn said his wife told him that she remembers her childhood. Plus, he added, the FBI likely wouldn’t have upset his wife unnecessarily unless they were pretty sure. > > … There aren’t enough details to know what to say yet, other than, wow! It’ll be interesting to see how closely the age-progressed photo on the 2nd page is to the real woman. Nancy Grace must be having multiple orgasms. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/2 "2009-08-27T18:39:37Z")
Wow. Just wow. ---
**Author:** ![Velma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/85e7bf/32.png) [@Velma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velma)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/3 "2009-08-27T18:44:56Z")
That’s crazy! I wonder why it took her so long to come forward or escape or whatever? I mean she is a grown woman now, and she was 11 when she was taken so it’s not like when babies are abducted and raised in another family without knowing it. Did her abductors physically keep her locked up this whole time or something? Or was she so abused/brainwashed she didn’t dare say anything? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/4 "2009-08-27T18:58:54Z")
How scary for them–I hope she’s okay and not suffering too much from what happened to her. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/5 "2009-08-27T19:07:29Z")
I am very curious about what her story is. What has she been doing for the past ten years? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/6 "2009-08-27T19:14:15Z")
This reminds me of that tv movie “I know my first name is Steven” that terrified me as a child. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/7 "2009-08-27T19:19:57Z")
The sad thing is, this will raise (and ultimately dash) the hopes of so many parents whose child has been abducted. I can see tehm holding on through the years, hoping Johnny or Janey will come back. **An Gadaí** - I immediately thought the same thing, about Steven Staynor. StG ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/8 "2009-08-27T19:22:57Z")
More information here: [http://www.ocregister.com/articles/probyn-jaycee-carl-2543174-area-woman](http://www.ocregister.com/articles/probyn-jaycee-carl-2543174-area-woman) Sad how it broke up her parents (though common as I understand it). ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/9 "2009-08-27T19:25:44Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I am very curious about what her story is. What has she been doing for the past ten years? Considering what happened to that woman in Germany who escaped from her father’s basement… I’m not sure I want to think about it. ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/10 "2009-08-27T19:31:24Z")
> [@Velma](#): > > That’s crazy! I wonder why it took her so long to come forward or escape or whatever? It’s called [Stockholm Syndrome](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome). Abduction stories rarely have a happy ending, especially after so many years, so I’m glad to hear she’s been found at last! ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/11 "2009-08-27T19:31:44Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Considering what happened to that woman in Germany who escaped from her father’s basement… I’m not sure I want to think about it. Good point. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/12 "2009-08-27T19:49:04Z")
I thought about Stockholm Syndrome, and the woman/family in [Austria](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case) (not Germany) too. > [@An\_Gadai](#): > > This reminds me of that tv movie “I know my first name is Steven” that terrified me as a child. That was a good movie and a hell of a real-life story: the kidnapping, the abuse, the reveal (him saving another little boy from the same fate), the sad death just when his life was normalizing, the brother who becomes a serial killer. Damn. Trivia about the movie: Arliss Howard played Kenneth Parnell, but apparently he didn’t want that to be on his resume, and is uncredited. Nowhere on the [movie’s page](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0097553/) is he mentioned, and it’s not listed on [Howard’s page](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0097553/). ---
**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/13 "2009-08-27T19:54:10Z")
> [@](#): > > Phillip Garrido was also booked on suspicion of rape by force, lewd and lascivious acts with a minor, sexual penetration and conspiracy, the San Francisco Chronicle reported. Eesh. I think we can rule out that she was treated well. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/14 "2009-08-27T19:58:21Z")
Garrido was already on the sexual offenders registry. **Equipoise** - That’s interesting about Arliss. I wonder why he doesn’t want to be credited? He did a great job in the movie, although the charcter was scum. StG ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/15 "2009-08-27T20:01:02Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > I thought about Stockholm Syndrome, and the woman/family in [Austria](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case) (not Germany) too. :smack: Right, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/16 "2009-08-27T20:12:41Z")
I remember a lot of people asking why Elizabeth Smart hadn’t escaped earlier and why she responded to, “I’m not who you think I am” to police (or someone?) after that whole thing broke. I think people really underestimate Stockholm Syndrome and the shock that you go into when kidnapped and treated brutally. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/17 "2009-08-27T20:17:24Z")
I think that in addition to SS being fairly prevalent, there is also the intelligence of the kidnappers. The victims that do not fall to SS or pretend that they did are mostly probably killed or kept under more strict scrutiny, so the ones that are found are mostly ones that did have SS. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/18 "2009-08-27T21:48:24Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > Eesh. I think we can rule out that she was treated well. Definitely. > **[Jaycee Dugard Describes Surviving 18 Years in Captivity](https://www.foxnews.com/us/jaycee-dugard-describes-surviving-18-years-in-captivity)** > > Jaycee Dugard, the California woman kidnapped in 1991 and held captive for nearly two decades, talked through tears about both the pain and determination she felt as she gave birth to her captor's child in his backyard while she was still just a... ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/19 "2009-08-27T21:59:11Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Nancy Grace must be having multiple orgasms. Where’s the bleach??? ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938/20 "2009-08-27T23:06:57Z")
from the police press conference, it sounds very much like the austrian situation. she was very carefully tucked away from sight and kept in seclusion. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abducted-11-year-old-turns-up-18-years-later/507938.md?page=2)