# Abele derer, are you fucking stupid or what? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 3, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266 "2011-01-03T21:45:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/1 "2011-01-03T21:45:40Z")
(…redirect [from here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=587319&page=12).) Hey **abele** , listen closely. In response to this: > [@Pascal's Wager](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pascals-wager/562323/590): > > I am not here to impress anyone or to curry favor with any “moderator.” It ain’t about currying favor, you moron. It’s about respect. R-E-S-P-E-C-T, you thick-skulled fundy jackass. And I can say that about you now because I just changed forums. At the risk of junior modding, I’d advise you to converse in this thread only, for the time being. People in this forum like to have fun. Be thankful that I saved your ass…this one time only. You’re on very thin ice now that you’ve read this: > [@Pascal's Wager](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pascals-wager/562323/591): > > [Moderating] > Discussions of moderating do not belong in this forum, **abele derer**. This will be your last instruction to drop this. > [/Moderating] Now you’ve got the big **M23** on your tail. Step out of line, and he’ll delete your existence. I can help you no longer, **abele derer.** May God have mercy on you. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/2 "2011-01-03T21:48:37Z")
He’s a religious fundamentalist. The fact that he’s a Jewish religious fundamentalist doesn’t really alter the general equation. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/3 "2011-01-03T21:51:17Z")
Is this like that joke where the one guy says to the other: Hey man! I saved your life on the way to work this morning! Huh. How’d you do that? Ran over a shit eating dog! ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/4 "2011-01-03T22:20:24Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > Hey man! I saved your life on the way to work this morning! > Huh. How’d you do that? > > Ran over a shit eating dog! Heh…I’m pretty sure I saved nothin’, but it was worth a shot. He’s just too stupid to live. If he were a genuine troll, I would’ve made popcorn instead. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/5 "2011-01-03T22:25:42Z")
This pitting is long overdue. The guy is a complete moron. It’s true because lots of people believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/6 "2011-01-03T22:31:47Z")
[QUOTE=fuzzypickles] Now you’ve got the big **M23** on your tail. Step out of line, and he’ll delete your existence. I can help you no longer, **abele derer.** May God have mercy on you. [/QUOTE] Those of us who were there when Marley took down the 7 McGibbon Brothers (Clyde, Levi, Rabbit, Hoosier, Little 'Un, Peedro and Glossy) and two of their sisters (Metamucilla and Big Wilma) at the Duck And Cover Saloon Showdown of Aught Eight still tremble in fear at them words. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/7 "2011-01-03T22:33:20Z")
> [@fuzzypickles](#): > > It ain’t about currying favor, you moron. It’s about respect. R-E-S-P-E-C-T, you thick-skulled fundy jackass. Meh, they’ll let any idiot be a “moderator” around here. You just have to supply your own propeller beanie and you’re in. ---
**Author:** ![buckgully](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@buckgully](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buckgully)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/8 "2011-01-03T23:17:24Z")
I get the distinct impression that he’s trying to commit suicide by mod in order to get out of the hole he finds himself in. That way he can go and tell his buddies about how the big meanie secularists kicked him out rather than admit to his impeccable logic. I was really hoping for a crazypants trainwreck meltdown, personally. There were more than a few times where I thought he was just going to start flat out accusing everyone who argued against him of being antisemitic. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/9 "2011-01-03T23:27:25Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > … You just have to supply your own propeller beanie … If [Cecil sneezes and the propeller comes off](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOxNtOMTpSo#t=0m35), do you lose your Mod powers? CMC fnord! More importantly, can you actually reach up high enough to put on a hat, or is it a tongue trick? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/10 "2011-01-03T23:27:45Z")
> [@buckgully](#): > > There were more than a few times where I thought he was just going to start flat out accusing everyone who argued against him of being antisemitic. Probably not the way he’ll take, as a few of his fellow Jews have pointed out that he’s acting like an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/11 "2011-01-03T23:35:16Z")
There is only one Moderator, and **Marley** is his Prophet. curry curry curry curry… ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/12 "2011-01-03T23:48:28Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Meh, they’ll let any idiot be a “moderator” around here. You just have to supply your own propeller beanie and you’re in. :smack: My God. That’s what I’ve been missing all this time. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/13 "2011-01-04T00:59:52Z")
So graft one on. What’s one more bizarre appendage on a chimera? ---
**Author:** ![abele\_derer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@abele\_derer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abele_derer)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/14 "2011-01-04T20:10:14Z")
I guess I should’t have been that disrepectful to the moderator; I guess I lost my cool. He’s just trying to do his job. A couple of points must be made about the nationally-commemorated, nationally-experienced sinai history. First, I never heard that Columbus discovering America is considered a myth. I was under the impression that this was true. Either way, it isn’t relevant to the sinai history, since Columbus’ voyage wasn’t experienced by an entire nation. Second, regarding the Civil War – that some claim that it was the north’s aggressive war. I agree that history can be interpreted in various ways, but that doesn’t show me how a national event which never happened can later be believed to have happened. Many people are stuck on the fact that archeology shows that the Exodus never happened (I am not an expert in archeology; so I can only do my best to show why I think Kuzari is compelling). Here are three archeological finds that back up the historicity of the Exodus: 1. The only place in the entire Bible which describes women giving birth “on stones” is in Exodus 1:16. Indeed, archeologists have discovered that Egyptian women gave birth on two “birthstones”. 2. The Bible discribes the Egyptian deity as being a sheep (See, e.g., Genesis 46:34). which is why during the Exodus God asked them to slaughter the Passover sheep. Indeed, according to archeology, the Egyptian god Atum (the highest god of that time), was depicted as a ram. 3. Frank Yurco, a writer and an expert on archeology writes: “A question must be asked regarding Ramesses and Pithom, the cities on which the Hebrews labored, according to Exodus. Why did the [imaginary] biblical editors or redactors refer specifically to Ramesses, when in their own era and for some three centuries earlier the capital of Egypt had been Tanis, a city well known and often referred to in the Old Testament? From the Book of Judges onwards, Tanis is consistently referred to as Egypt’s capital. Why would a biblical editor insert Ramesses into a newly composed story when that city no longer existed in Egypt and had not been Pharaoh’s residence or the capital for the previous four to five centuries?” ---
**Author:** ![abele\_derer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@abele\_derer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abele_derer)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/15 "2011-01-04T20:14:11Z")
Sorry I should have posted in the original thread. I will respost there. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/16 "2011-01-04T20:14:55Z")
You suckers asked for it. I recommend Atum’s Wikipedia entry (which does not mention sheep) if you want to take a crack at this argument. But I can’t put it any better than this: > [@fuzzypickles](#): > > He’s just too stupid to live. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/17 "2011-01-04T20:15:21Z")
I’ve never heard that archeology shows that the events described in the book of Exodus never happened. The most I’ve heard is that archeology has thus far failed to provide any evidence to support the assertion that they _did_ happen (as described). ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/18 "2011-01-04T20:19:27Z")
> [@abele\_derer](#): > > Either way, it isn’t relevant to the sinai history, since Columbus’ voyage wasn’t experienced by an entire nation. Outside of events like sunrise and sunset, _nothing_ has ever been experienced by “an entire nation”. ---
**Author:** ![abele\_derer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6bbea6/32.png) [@abele\_derer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abele_derer)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/19 "2011-01-04T20:25:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Outside of events like sunrise and sunset, _nothing_ has ever been experienced by “an entire nation”. The Holy Temple in Jerusalem was experienced by the entire nation. And its existence is commemorated by the holiday of Tisha B’av and Hanukah. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266/20 "2011-01-04T20:29:31Z")
That statement is devoid of any practical meaning. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abele-derer-are-you-fucking-stupid-or-what/566266.md?page=2)