# Aborted drunken rant: **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 9, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139 "2010-09-09T03:21:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/21 "2010-09-09T19:31:12Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > I saw a news clip of this guy…what kind of pastor keeps a gun on his desk? One who claims to have received death threats for saying he’s going to burn Korans. Dude doesn’t like the radical elements of Islam. Fine. But planning to do something that’s likely going to piss off every single Muslim on the planet? Must be one hell of a disconnect in his head. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/22 "2010-09-09T19:41:10Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Must be one hell of a disconnect in his head. Which will lead to a disconnct _of_ his head. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/23 "2010-09-09T22:09:54Z")
He’s called it off. Supposedly the Imam responsible for the “Ground Zero Mosque” has agreed to not build there if Jones calls off his Koran burning. Jones will be meeting with him on Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/24 "2010-09-09T22:21:41Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > He’s called it off. Supposedly the Imam responsible for the “Ground Zero Mosque” has agreed to not build there if Jones calls off his Koran burning. Jones will be meeting with him on Saturday. And now they’re saying the Imam is denying it. I forgot that news reporters long ago stopped checking sources before reporting something. But it still appears that Jones has cancelled the book burning because they actually showed him saying this on the news. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/25 "2010-09-09T22:23:24Z")
I still think the funniest part of this whole thing is the name of his church - The Dove World Outreach Center. Who the hell taught this guy his Christianity? ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/26 "2010-09-09T22:25:12Z")
Well, he got his publicity and a few new members and dollars for his church. What an enterprising American! Playing on politics, hatred and fear to further the American Dream. I’ve never been prouder the American spirit than I am right now. _::wipes away crocodile tear::_ ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/27 "2010-09-09T23:05:33Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > He also thinks Jesus would join him in burning Korans if he were still around. He would do it by _shooting fire from his eyes!_ ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/28 "2010-09-09T23:38:12Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > He’s called it off. Supposedly the Imam responsible for the “Ground Zero Mosque” has agreed to not build there if Jones calls off his Koran burning. Jones will be meeting with him on Saturday. He agreed to the meeting. He did not agree to move the MCC. That guy (everyone keeps calling him “pastor”) is scary crazy. Hide the women and children!! Especially the children. I know you can’t tell if someone is a child molester by just looking at him, but that guy looks like a child molester!! ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2010, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/29 "2010-09-09T23:40:01Z")
Dude, are you comparing Jesus to Cyclops, one of the lamest of all of the X-Men? Everyone knows that Jesus would destroy the Qur’an with his retractable adamantium claws. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/30 "2010-09-10T00:51:32Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > He agreed to the meeting. He did not agree to move the MCC. Jones shows up, they lop off his head, and everyone is happy. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/31 "2010-09-10T03:30:59Z")
> [@descamisado](#): > > Well, he got his publicity and a few new members and dollars for his church. Not so much. Half the congregation (ie., about 50 people) left the church because they disagreed with the Koran burning. ---
**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/32 "2010-09-10T06:19:19Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > Vodka and Ginger Ale are quite tasty when mixed properly. [Don’t forget the lime!"](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_mule) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/33 "2010-09-10T13:43:23Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > > [@Wile\_E](#): > > > > He’s called it off. Supposedly the Imam responsible for the “Ground Zero Mosque” has agreed to not build there if Jones calls off his Koran burning. Jones will be meeting with him on Saturday. > > He agreed to the meeting. He did not agree to move the MCC. > > That guy (everyone keeps calling him “pastor”) is scary crazy. Hide the women and children!! Especially the children. I know you can’t tell if someone is a child molester by just looking at him, but that guy looks like a child molester!! Actually, he hasn’t agreed to anything. The head of the Central Florida Islamic Society agreed to take Jones to New York to meet Raif and to use his own influence to have the MCC moved. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/34 "2010-09-10T14:52:06Z")
Remind me what he’s actually done wrong, again? Threatening to do something offensive? Wake me up when he goes through with it. You know that 24-hour news cycle that Dopers like to bitch about? Well it’s threads like these that cause that. One guy wants to build a mosque and that offends people. Another guy wants to burn some books and that offends people. For some reason, you guys are picking sides. I don’t see any criteria here for one guy being worse than the other guy. What’s more reasonable to take offense to? A building tangientially supporting an idea that killed people like you, or the burning of a book that you really like? Both sound pretty ridiculous to me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/35 "2010-09-10T14:58:05Z")
Who is this “one guy” who “wants to build a mosque”? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/36 "2010-09-10T15:07:35Z")
Burning books, or threatening to, has struck a chord with people since [10 May 1933](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_book_burnings). ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/37 "2010-09-10T16:10:49Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > I’m wondering what would happen if someone turned up at the burning with Bibles in Koran dust jackets. One of the best ideas I’ve seen is for everyone to send that church copies of the Bible… in Arabic. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/38 "2010-09-10T16:26:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > [@descamisado](#): > > > > Well, he got his publicity and a few new members and dollars for his church. > > Not so much. Half the congregation (ie., about 50 people) left the church because they disagreed with the Koran burning. I was just doing some seriously uninformed WAGging and am seriously glad to be wrong in order to learn that there are some right-thinking people – and christians – in this world. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/39 "2010-09-10T16:40:06Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Who is this “one guy” who “wants to build a mosque”? Fine. “Several people” want to “set up” a “community center associated with a mosque.” Better? But that doesn’t address what I said. Why are Dopers picking sides? It’s like two idiots yelling at each other at a stop light. It’s still X pissing off Y and not caring about it, so Y does something to piss off X. So now X and Y are engaged in a pissing contest and the rest of you are pulling on your waders and heading straight into the lake. And I’m on the shore, laughing at all the people that, no matter what side they’re on, are going to come out smelling like piss. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139/40 "2010-09-10T16:43:44Z")
Because the two actions are not even close to equivalent. Unless you’re mentally retarded, I really see no reason to explain that to you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aborted-drunken-rant/553139.md?page=3)