# Abortion clinic "Buffer zones" in Massachusetts not legal, says unanimous SCOTUS

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**Created:** [June 26, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-buffer-zones-in-massachusetts-not-legal-says-unanimous-scotus/691698 "2014-06-26T14:58:43Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-buffer-zones-in-massachusetts-not-legal-says-unanimous-scotus/691698/292 "2014-06-27T06:42:44Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> Wow. Just wow. Over 750,000 American women have abortions every year. Are you going to propose that all of them be denied the vote? Or just some? Why don’t you bring back public stocks while we’re at it? Then you could directly hiss and boos and maybe even throw a piece of fruit at the non-feeling-enough guilt women while you’re at it?

Sure, why not?

Again: I’m not a democrat and so I don’t see anything _intrinsically_ wrong with restricting political rights to a minority.

> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> Because abortion has nothing to do with ‘women.’ Nothing at all. Sure. Let’s not dare take a single second to even think about the actual consequences of pregnancy when discussing abortion. Again, you are aware that most people do not support your extremist viewpoint on this subject?

Yes, it doesn’t have anything to do with ‘women’ vs. ‘men’. It’s a fairly straightforward issue of human life: is it even legitimate to kill an innocent human being for your own convenience? This is why in, for example, studies like the Olson paper which I linked to, they group abortion together with other ‘life’ issues. Not surprisingly, women tend to favour or oppose abortion in about the same numbers as men.

I support abortion in cases of serious medical threats to the mother, and not for any other reason (including rape, etc.). That’s not an extreme position, it’s (one of) the positions in the moderate middle.

> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> The common good is not served by illegal abortion. The common good is not served by women dead from anti-abortion laws. The common good is not served by harsh anti-abortion laws crafted on the basis of ludicrous sanctimony. You won’t stop most women from getting abortions. You’ll just hurt some very desperate people. I’m very sorry that you imagine otherwise.

Evidently we have very different ideas of what the common good is. I’d say the common good is _eminently_ served by laws that say, no, no matter how unhappy you might be, and no matter how much it may hurt your feelings, you don’t have the right to kill your child. Their life is more important than your comfort and your ‘freedom’. Sorry.

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