# Abortion-clinic picketers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 6, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935 "2011-05-06T05:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 101
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2001 "2011-05-22T11:12:51Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Pretty sure this is the case. I’ve seen her in threads other than this one and in every single one she’s stupid and needlessly inflammatory. I’ve seen your posts as well. In every single one of them you are arrogant and condescending to compensate for the fact that you are dumb as a box of rocks. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2002 "2011-05-22T11:14:59Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Uh-huh… assuming this is true, you realize that an abortion ban could very easily have killed you, right? OB/GYNs leaving the specialty because they don’t want to deal with the abortion police, or possibly performing abortions illegally because they recognize the need and getting arrested… then you come along with your high-risk pregnancy and find you can’t get any medical appointments or prenatal care because the OB/GYNs have been driven out of your state… > But I figure you’re lying, anyway, so it’s academic. Yes. Yes. I’m lying. Man, you really have to do something about that paranoia. I still haven’t figured how you type with that straight jacket on. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2003 "2011-05-22T11:16:13Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > If you actually wanted that, you’d do something more likely to stop it than posting on this message board in such a way as to convince no one. Same goes for you. NOT ONE of the anti-lifers/pro-abortionists on this thread has managed to convince me that killing your own child is A ok. Hopefully one day they will see the error of their ways. ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2004 "2011-05-22T12:00:12Z")
Y’know, being the OP of a thread that hits 2000+ posts would normally make one a bit of a ‘hero’ in SDMB culture, but unfortunately in this case the thread has been infected by a particular messageboard virus called **classyladyhp** , so no accolades will be forthcoming. **classyladyhp** , you are a very special person really. I continue to be amazed by your complete inability to present a lucid argument, to wilfully ignore the points and arguments that others make, to patronise and condemn those who challenge your ignorant assertions, and in general to make yourself look like a complete fucking dickhead. It takes a most remarkable person to be able to do all of these things in the way that you have achieved. Congratulations. Now fuck off. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2005 "2011-05-22T12:23:09Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > One cannot prove there isn’t a soul. A negative doesn’t need proof! To say Cinderella doesn’t exist needs no proof, the same as about the word soul. What happens to life then when it leaves the body, that is the defination of death! ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2006 "2011-05-22T12:26:36Z")
It’s OK **Kambuckta** , you’re still my hero. **CLHP** you apologised if the term “anti-life” offended me. It does, and not just when it is directed specifically at me. Pro-abortion is equally untrue and insulting. You prefer the label Pro-Life because you feel it accurately represents your views, we prefer Pro-Choice because it we feel it accurately represents our views. When we call each other names we know are insulting it adds nothing to the discussion. Nobody has yet persuaded you that abortion is A-OK, but you have agreed that in certain circumstances it is acceptable, permissible and should be available legally and safely. You haven’t chosen to become engaged in a discussion about what, exactly, those circumstances are or how they could be determined or enforced. Is there any particular reason for this? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2007 "2011-05-22T13:01:36Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Yes. Yes. I’m lying. Man, you really have to do something about that paranoia. I still haven’t figured how you type with that straight jacket on. nitpick: It’s _straitjacket_, not _straight jacket_. You really have to do something about using that spellchecker.😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2008 "2011-05-22T14:35:32Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Same goes for you. NOT ONE of the anti-lifers/pro-abortionists on this thread has managed to convince me that killing your own child is A ok. Hopefully one day they will see the error of their ways. That’d be fun if I were trying to convince you of anything. I’m just poking fun at you because your arguments have more holes than a colander, you’re a gigantic hypocrite who somehow thinks she has the moral high ground, and frankly because it’s funny. I know you can’t be convinced, because I actually understand your own argument better than you do. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2009 "2011-05-22T15:47:58Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > I’ve seen your posts as well. In every single one of them you are arrogant and condescending to compensate for the fact that you are dumb as a box of rocks. I am not arrogant! ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2010 "2011-05-22T15:49:51Z")
I think for all the rhetoric in these threads what it always seems to boil down to is that some {many? most?} pro life supporters believe that an embryo is just as much a person/baby, as a newborn and in need of protection. They believe it is the responsibility of the woman who got pregnant to carry to term regardless of how it affects her life {with the possible exception of a life threatening pregnancy} I guess they also think it’s the government’s job and obligation to try and prevent this , {although, most don’t seem to want it treated as murder even though they use those terms} I have to wonder how aggressively they want this prosecuted , since we pretty much know that abortions will continue and making them illegal and harder to get will affect the poor much more than the affluent. I guess I can wrap my head around the idea that women being compelled to carry to term, and doctors and women being charged with something is okay if it results in saving lives {in their view} It seems to me that there is also some attitude of the innocence of these “babies” some carries more importance than the lives of the woman. Personally I think the “sanctity of human life” argument fails when people work so hard to try and keep women from having abortions and having them available and safe. but do little to promote the sanctity of life with real people in need and real children who already need their help. I can respect folks like Bricker who make a effort to offer real world alternatives to women considering abortion. IMO, that honors the potential life, and the life of the woman as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2011 "2011-05-22T15:59:53Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Man, you really have to do something about that paranoia. It’s not paranoia to call you a liar. It would be paranoia to call _everybody_ a liar. On-line dictionaries exist. Try using one, kid. ---
**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2012 "2011-05-22T16:16:24Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I am not arrogant! Yeah, boy is she foolish. People dumb as a box of rocks don’t even know what arrogant and condescending mean. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2013 "2011-05-22T17:19:01Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Yes genius. I’ve already said that it is ok in ectopic pregnancies or if the Dr. says the mother will die if the pregnancy continues:rolleyes: But…Abortion stops a beating heart!!! I’m just saying that because now you have finally admitted that it is okay (and thanks so much for your seal of approval, BTW) in certain situations–which means you’re not quite as absolutist as you had claimed to be. Now, would you mind going back to post #1710 for more situations? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2014 "2011-05-22T17:26:58Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > Now, would you mind going back to post #1710 for more situations? classylady never looks back! Only to the future! FUTURE! GRAWWWR! ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2015 "2011-05-22T17:31:32Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Yes genius. I’ve already said that it is ok in ectopic pregnancies or if the Dr. says the mother will die if the pregnancy continues:rolleyes: But why is it OK just because the mother will die? The fetus is, to you, a completely innocent human being. Why are you picking the life of the person who you have previously blamed for the situation, the mother, over the life of another who carries no blame in your mind? Could it just be that you don’t view a fetus as having the same rights as a human? ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2016 "2011-05-22T18:35:36Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > Y’know, being the OP of a thread that hits 2000+ posts would normally make one a bit of a ‘hero’ in SDMB culture, but unfortunately in this case the thread has been infected by a particular messageboard virus called **classyladyhp** , so no accolades will be forthcoming. > > **classyladyhp** , you are a very special person really. I continue to be amazed by your complete inability to present a lucid argument, to wilfully ignore the points and arguments that others make, to patronise and condemn those who challenge your ignorant assertions, and in general to make yourself look like a complete fucking dickhead. > > It takes a most remarkable person to be able to do all of these things in the way that you have achieved. Congratulations. > > Now fuck off. > > 😃 Man do you ever have problems. I feel sorry for you. So sorry that you are so ignorant and retarded beyond belief. There is no justification for murder and there never will be. SO you pro-abortionists can conjure up whatever ludicrous scenario you want to . In the end I support life and you worship murder. Congratulations. Thanks for creating the dumbest thread where you try and pollute the world with your evil. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2017 "2011-05-22T18:37:47Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > That’d be fun if I were trying to convince you of anything. I’m just poking fun at you because your arguments have more holes than a colander, you’re a gigantic hypocrite who somehow thinks she has the moral high ground, and frankly because it’s funny. > > I know you can’t be convinced, because I actually understand your own argument better than you do. Your head has more holes than a colander. I do have the moral highground here. Not my fault if you were raised wihtout morals and values. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2018 "2011-05-22T18:39:18Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > nitpick: > > It’s _straitjacket_, not _straight jacket_. You really have to do something about using that spellchecker.😛 Since I’ve never had to use one I wouldn’t know. I bow to your expertise you must know a hell of a lot about them. Now stop posting from the mental institution. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2019 "2011-05-22T18:43:27Z")
> [@irishgirl](#): > > It’s OK **Kambuckta** , you’re still my hero. > > **CLHP** you apologised if the term “anti-life” offended me. It does, and not just when it is directed specifically at me. Pro-abortion is equally untrue and insulting. > > You prefer the label Pro-Life because you feel it accurately represents your views, we prefer Pro-Choice because it we feel it accurately represents our views. > > When we call each other names we know are insulting it adds nothing to the discussion. > > Nobody has yet persuaded you that abortion is A-OK, but you have agreed that in certain circumstances it is acceptable, permissible and should be available legally and safely. > > You haven’t chosen to become engaged in a discussion about what, exactly, those circumstances are or how they could be determined or enforced. > > Is there any particular reason for this? If kambuckta’s your hero I have nothing more to say. /she/it said the vilest things to me in a previous post. I hought you were different that the other pro-choicers. I respected your views as well. Since you support the OP I’m done responding to you. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2020 "2011-05-22T18:45:52Z")
> [@villa](#): > > But why is it OK just because the mother will die? The fetus is, to you, a completely innocent human being. Why are you picking the life of the person who you have previously blamed for the situation, the mother, over the life of another who carries no blame in your mind? > > Could it just be that you don’t view a fetus as having the same rights as a human? I don’t know why I bother. As I said a million fucking times an ectopic pregnancy must be ended because both the mother and the baby will die. In situations where the mother’s life is at risk the pregnancy must be ended because the baby may die anyways in that kind of an environment and the mother cannot expect to give up her life own life to save the child. She can be expected to carry on a normal pregnancy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935.md?page=100) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935.md?page=102)