# Abortion-clinic picketers.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 6, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935 "2011-05-06T05:57:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2101 "2011-05-23T12:32:12Z")

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[quote=“IvoryTowerDenizen, post:2098, topic:580935”]

But that’s you have been doing? When someone else says they have a different understanding of when life beings your shriek “It’s a fact! At conception! It’s a fact!”. What may be crystal clear to you IS a mystery.

When asked about some other metaphysical question that you can’t answer, well then we’re stupid for asking! Other people have a crystal clear opinion of what happens after death.

ETA: \*\*IVT???[/\*\*QUOTE]

I’m going to make you wonder about that one all day:D  
I’ll answer what IVT is when you tell me what life beings are:D

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2102 "2011-05-23T12:34:21Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Not to everyone. I have showed you that. Why does your conclusion trump others?

Then why does your definition trump mine. You do know that philosopher’s have been debating this issue for many many years now right?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2103 "2011-05-23T12:38:35Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Then why does your definition trump mine. You do know that philosopher’s have been debating this issue for many many years now right?

It doesn’t. You are right.

That’s why Pro-Choice is the only moral stand. Be for abortion or against it- no one is telling you (the individual you) what to believe or do with your body.

You really don’t get it- I utterly respect the pro-life position. I know too many pro-life people who have such personal integrity. But more importantly I respect women (in general) and the woman’s right to choose and come to that difficult decision (that philosopher’s have been debating) for themselves.

ETA: IVT was you mistyping IDT. You were mocking me and made a typo and it was beautiful thing. I Knew you wouldn’t admit it because it would make you look silly.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2104 "2011-05-23T12:47:22Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> It doesn’t. You are right.
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> That’s why Pro-Choice is the only moral stand. Be for abortion or against it- no one is telling you (the individual you) what to believe or do with your body.
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> You really don’t get it- I utterly respect the pro-life position. I know too many pro-life people who have such personal integrity. But more importantly I respect women (in general) and the woman’s right to choose and come to that difficult decision (that philosopher’s have been debating) for themselves.
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> ETA:\*\* IVT was you mistyping IDT. \*\*You were mocking me and made a typo and it was beautiful thing. I Knew you wouldn’t admit it because it would make you look silly.

Irony is a beautiful thing isn’t it?So is Karma.

IVT was me mistyping ITD. You just made a typo on YOUR OWN username:D:cool:  
Human begins was also you misspelling human beings.  
It took me to make you realize you aren’t perfect.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2105 "2011-05-23T12:47:29Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> ETA: IVT was you mistyping IDT. You were mocking me and made a typo and it was beautiful thing. I Knew you wouldn’t admit it because it would make you look silly.

What?! classyladyhp doesn’t make mistakes! She has the moral high ground on anything that it is possible to have moral high ground on. Because you are rude. And you are a moron for pointing it out! God, everybody here is such an imbecile. I won’t respond to you as long as you keep being so stupid.  
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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2106 "2011-05-23T12:50:01Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> What?! classyladyhp doesn’t make mistakes! She has the moral high ground on anything that it is possible to have moral high ground on. Because you are rude. And you are a moron for pointing it out! God, everybody here is such an imbecile. I won’t respond to you as long as you keep being so stupid.  
> [/classyladyhp]

She was mocking my typo. Have a look at this thread an tally up how many times people made fun of me over a fucking typo you lunatic. BTW is you respond to me then you admit that I have “quit being so stupid”.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2107 "2011-05-23T12:50:35Z")

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God, you are an idiot. This thread is an abortion. Maybe you should try and outlaw it, too.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2108 "2011-05-23T12:51:26Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Irony is a beautiful thing isn’t it?So is Karma.
> 
> IVT was me mistyping ITD. You just made a typo on YOUR OWN username:D:cool:  
> Human begins was also you misspelling human beings.  
> It took me to make you realize you aren’t perfect.

It’s not my username. My username is IvoryTowerDenizen. Yup, I know I’m imperfect, which is why I rarely try to claim I have a connection to the truth.

Yup, it is funny that I made a typo pointing out your typo. I agree. I can laugh at myself just fine.

The reason that your error was funny was that you were being a bitch at the time.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2109 "2011-05-23T13:28:54Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> God, you are an idiot. This thread is an abortion. Maybe you should try and outlaw it, too.

You responded:D

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2110 "2011-05-23T13:30:52Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> It’s not my username. My username is IvoryTowerDenizen. Yup, I know I’m imperfect, which is why I rarely try to claim I have a connection to the truth.
> 
> Yup, it is funny that I made a typo pointing out your typo. I agree. I can laugh at myself just fine.
> 
> The reason that your error was funny was that you were being a bitch at the time.

Oh excuse me the _abbreviation_ for your username is ITD. It’s still your username.  
Takes a bitch to know a bitch:D

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2111 "2011-05-23T13:33:54Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Not to everyone. I have showed you that. Why does your conclusion trump others?

Because she’s a classy lady, of course. The fact that she’s not very bright doesn’t come into it.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2112 "2011-05-23T13:35:13Z")

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> [@Who\_me\_1](#):
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> Because she’s a classy lady, of course. The fact that she’s not very bright doesn’t come into it.

Who\_me? yeah you! The imbecile. You guys are all idiots. You don’t even know what my username actually stands for.

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**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2113 "2011-05-23T13:46:54Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Who\_me? yeah you! The imbecile. You guys are all idiots. You don’t even know what my username actually stands for.

What, the _whole thing_ is an acronym? That’s going to take some working out.

Clearly, Ladies’ Abortions Should Sentence Young Lasses to Awful Damnation, You Harlots and Perverts?

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2114 "2011-05-23T13:52:21Z")

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> [@Double\_Foolscap](#):
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> What, the _whole thing_ is an acronym? That’s going to take some working out.
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> Clearly, Ladies’ Abortions Should Sentence Young Lasses to Awful Damnation, You Harlots and Perverts?

Not bad… I was just going to say that I didn’t _care_ what the name stood for…

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**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2115 "2011-05-23T14:07:26Z")

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Respond to post #2055. When you only respond to (justifiably) inflammatory posts with more flame, you become a troll.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2116 "2011-05-23T14:13:05Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Oh excuse me the _abbreviation_ for your username is ITD. It’s still your username.  
> Takes a bitch to know a bitch:D

meh.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2117 "2011-05-23T14:16:20Z")

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At this point, I can’t decide which flavor I enjoy better: OMG a Black Conservative’s Original Illogic or classyladyhp’s Extra Crazy.

We should just have a mod rename the thread as “Kentucky Fried Pro-Life Arguments”.

I can’t say I find it surprising that the rational pro-lifers are avoiding this thread like the plague, though.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2118 "2011-05-23T14:17:36Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Before I posted on this thread I had never been part of any pro-life groups or picketed at abortion clinics. Thanks to all of the pro-choicers on this thread I will in the future. I will fight for the lives of innocent children. I take comfort in knowing that one day abortion will be eliminated in this society and will be made illegal.  
> One day people will look back at how we aborted innocent children for stupid, selfish reasons and they will be shocked and horrified that this kind of barbaric act took even took place on Earth.  
> Women, take fucking responsibility for your actions. By your actions you created a human being entirely dependent on you and you have the responsibility to care for it and nurture it. Stop killing your own children. Your own flesh and blood. Please.

What about the women (and men) that are at PP for birth control but get turned away by the picketers? What about the women that will not get pre-natal care because of them?  
You’re contributing to the very problem that you claim to protest.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2119 "2011-05-23T14:24:56Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> You are self-righteous. Take you condescension and shove it. You can’t tell me where to post, what to post, how to feel.  
> I already assumed that most of the pro-choicers here are atheists..  
> You can’t support abortion and still believe in God.  
> .

Assuming. Overgeneralizing. Oversimplifying. Absolutism. Yep, that’s you all over.

You will never believe it, but people can support abortion and believe in God. Or not. Or they can believe in God and not support abortion. Or not.

Until you prove to all of us that you are telepathic and can see into our minds or souls and know what we believe, you have no business making such a claim.

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**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2120 "2011-05-23T14:29:10Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> So THAT’s why you’re so adamant that the fetus is not a person. It’s due to Jewish law? Well that means fuck all to me since I"M NOT Jewish.

The irony in some of these posts is fun isn’t it? This one is especially delicious.

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