# Abortion-clinic picketers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 6, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935 "2011-05-06T05:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 117
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2321 "2011-05-25T17:30:52Z")
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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2322 "2011-05-25T17:33:40Z")
The following is my \*\*classyladyhp \*\*impression: [quote=“Lynn\_Bodoni, post:2320, topic:580935”] Potatoes are alive, and so are onions. Both are capable of sprouting and growing if you’re not diligent about using them up. And I’ve thrown away old stalks of celery into the compost pit, only to find them growing./QUOTE] So now you’re saying potatoes are people:rolleyes: you are such a idiot:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2323 "2011-05-25T17:44:12Z")
You even threw in the mistyped quote tags. Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2324 "2011-05-25T17:57:20Z")
That’s two posts removed by the classy one. Edited because I misread a post ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2325 "2011-05-25T17:59:29Z")
…and the peanut gallery has come out to play. I hope making fun of me makes you feel better about the fact that you are idiots. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2326 "2011-05-25T18:00:36Z")
> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > Actually, the apple seeds ARE alive, and have the potential to become apple trees. The seeds are capable of growing into apple trees. So the seeds are potential apple trees by most people’s logic. By your logic, they ARE apple trees, only very small and not fully formed yet. I think that the apples themselves are alive, too, up to a certain point after they’re harvested. > > Potatoes are alive, and so are onions. Both are capable of sprouting and growing if you’re not diligent about using them up. And I’ve thrown away old stalks of celery into the compost pit, only to find them growing. Are you pro-choice for celery stalks then? ---
**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2327 "2011-05-25T18:03:00Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > …and the peanut gallery has come out to play. I hope making fun of me makes you feel better about the fact that you are idiots. Unfortunately, I don’t believe that’s the case. You seem to insist that your opinions are universal truths, while everyone else has spam for brains. I’ll admit that you have every right to believe whatever you want, even though they’re not very well thought out. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2328 "2011-05-25T18:04:16Z")
> [@Who\_me\_1](#): > > Unfortunately, I don’t believe that’s the case. You seem to insist that your opinions are universal truths, while everyone else has spam for brains. I’ll admit that you have every right to believe whatever you want, even though they’re not very well thought out. Thanks for the civil response. You also have every right to believe that my arguments are not well thought out. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2329 "2011-05-25T18:31:44Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > You even threw in the mistyped quote tags. Nice. I was hoping someone would notice. It’s the little details that you put in to show your love. Also: > [@classyladyhp](#): > > Are you pro-choice for celery stalks then? I mocked her for it and she STILL said it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2330 "2011-05-25T18:32:58Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Thanks for the civil response. You also have every right to believe that my arguments are not well thought out. See, there’s no “belief” here. Your stated conclusions regarding political positions objectively don’t match your stated premises. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2331 "2011-05-25T18:40:03Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Thanks for the civil response. You also have every right to believe that my arguments are not well thought out. What arguments? [Still waiting.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13818014&postcount=1710) ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2332 "2011-05-25T18:47:49Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Well, if I made an incorrect statement and attributed a position to you that you don’t actually hold, I’d prefer (and I would expect you would, too) to clear that up before moving on. Unless, you were planning on playing, “Gotcha” later on with my incorrect statement. > > So, was I wrong? Did you not say, or do you not believe, that abortion was murder? Answer that an we can move on. Didn’t we just go through this? Answer my question first, since it was asked first, then I’ll answer yours. > [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > I dunno, gay marriage _seemed_ like a highly important issue in 2004, to the point where the Republican strategy significantly relied on it, and you say abortion is more important than _that…_ During the 2004 election, the Republican strategy was to focus on the “War on Terror”. The fact that many states had proposeed gay marriage laws on their ballots were purely incidental, though it did help the Republicans overall. > [@](#): > > Well, a groundswell of public desire could prompt a constitutional amendment, like the 18th, if the issue was that important to them. Because Constitutional amendments are easy to pass? > [@](#): > > And why would the courts behave as you describe? Spite? Behave like what? > [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > This is exactly what I am referring to. You may believe it with such certainly, as is your absolute right, but not everyone does. And this OK, too. For example- Jewish law teaches something else. Would a religious Jew be immoral for believing that? (and for the record, I actually disagree with many aspects of Jewish teaching on that point). People of good faith can disagree on metaphysical arguments without having to paint the other as immoral and bad. That has been virtually my point, or underlies my frustration, in every interaction with you. This isn’t a matter of beliefs. This is a matter of science. People who try to relegate an argument down to one of personal beliefs have already lost. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2333 "2011-05-25T18:52:31Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Didn’t we just go through this? Answer my question first, since it was asked first, then I’ll answer yours. Sorry I’m confused. Please be more specific. Which question? One you asked after I made the statement that you believed abortion is murder? Or before? If it was after, I just want to clear up that I’m starting from an accurate position. ---
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2334 "2011-05-25T18:54:56Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > So what? Who cares that it is part of Jewish law? That has nothing to do with it. Are you saying that everyone who is not Jewish should accept these teachings? I hope that is not what you are implying. Oh and you’re back again. This is another gem that’s beautiful to behold. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2335 "2011-05-25T18:57:14Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > This isn’t a matter of beliefs. This is a matter of science. People who try to relegate an argument down to one of personal beliefs have already lost. I agree completely, from a personal view. However, the point I was making had to do with why my religious beliefs should be forced on others and I argued they should not. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2336 "2011-05-25T19:07:42Z")
> [@heatmiserfl](#): > > This is another gem that’s beautiful to behold. Cut the sarcasm:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2337 "2011-05-25T19:12:35Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > Cut the sarcasm:rolleyes: Sarcastic words are people! They come from people, and have a life of their own from day one. You abortionist. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2338 "2011-05-25T19:28:07Z")
> [@classyladyhp](#): > > …and the peanut gallery has come out to play. I hope making fun of me makes you feel better about the fact that you are idiots. I gave you a well thought out and sincere comment regarding your position on mother’s health and you ignored it. Pages ago I gave you a sincere and well thought out answer regarding aborting homosexual fetuses, and unless I missed it, you ignored it. My response regarding Judaism was also sincere and ignored. But you find time for pithy little snark like this. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2339 "2011-05-25T19:31:05Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Sarcastic words are people! They come from people, and have a life of their own from day one. You abortionist. :rolleyes:whacko. ---
**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/2340 "2011-05-25T19:32:05Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I gave you a well thought out and sincere comment regarding your position on mother’s health and you ignored it. > > Pages ago I gave you a sincere and well thought out answer regarding aborting homosexual fetuses, and unless I missed it, you ignored it. > > My response regarding Judaism was also sincere and ignored. > > **But you find time for pithy little snark like this**. Yes and you are innocent. Isn’t this the pit? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935.md?page=116) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935.md?page=118)