# Abortion-clinic picketers.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 6, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935 "2011-05-06T05:57:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1761 "2011-05-19T18:45:59Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> …that’s terrific. I am fully aware of the English language and I am also fluent in 2 other languages:rolleyes:  
> All this time I thought that the subject of this thread was picketers:dubious:  
> It’s time for you to sharpen up those reading comprehension skills. I’m sending you some hooked on phonics.

You’re funny. The sentence I responded to had fuck all to do with what the thread is about. You’re simply said murdered the English language by making a nonsensical assertion about it.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1762 "2011-05-19T18:49:47Z")

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Aw, man, now I got sucked into **QtheM** ’s thead in **Lynn** ’s link and this thread will fly right by me …

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1763 "2011-05-19T18:54:43Z")

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Oh, come on now. Time spent in that link is time spent giggling at human stupidity, and it’s well worth it.

It’s a pity that the bageldog link doesn’t work any more.

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**Author:** ![Beniamino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@Beniamino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beniamino)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1764 "2011-05-19T18:59:00Z")

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Just out of curiosity, what’s the longest thread on SDMB in recent memory?

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1765 "2011-05-19T19:00:03Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> They always have to be right about everything even when they’ve been proven wrong. I find pro-choice people to be the most judgmental of all.

Incorrect. You’ve passed judgement on pregnant women who terminate their pregnancies as lazy, etc. I, on the other hand, don’t give the matter any thought. Maybe they’re lazy, slutty whores, maybe they’re nuns who’ve been raped on the street, most likely they’re somewhere in between. In any case, it’s not my body, not my business, and not my concern.

You don’t have to like abortion or those who terminate their pregnancies. I understand that such practices make you sad, what I don’t understand is why you think it matters.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1766 "2011-05-19T19:01:34Z")

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And the lunkhead who thinks there aren’t gradations of human is wrong too. If there weren’t, somewhere in our evolutionary past a non-human gave birth to a human; a member of one species gave birth to a member of a completely different species. That’s a very stupid idea.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1767 "2011-05-19T19:10:21Z")

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> [@Beniamino](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, what’s the longest thread on SDMB in recent memory?

Stupid Republican Idea of the Day comes to mind. The reservoir of Stupid Republican Ideas appears bottomless.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1768 "2011-05-19T19:17:53Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> That’s nice.  
> That still doesn’t prove there is no harm in thinking a newborn is not a person but carry on.

I guess I wasn’t clear. Your analogy (dispute on whether a fetus is a human being leading to people being able to conclude a baby isn’t) is absurd because it doesnt recognize the middle ground.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1769 "2011-05-19T19:20:02Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> I guess I wasn’t clear. Your analogy (dispute on whether a fetus is a human being leading to people being able to conclude a baby isn’t) is absurd because it doesnt recognize the middle ground.

You were perfectly clear. Welcome to the “Deliberately Obtuse” defense.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1770 "2011-05-19T19:23:28Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> You’re funny. The sentence I responded to had fuck all to do with what the thread is about. \*\*You’re simply said murdered the \*\*English language by making a nonsensical assertion about it.

What the fuck does the bolded mean?

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1771 "2011-05-19T19:25:07Z")

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> [@Beniamino](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, what’s the longest thread on SDMB in recent memory?

We’re only a few pages away from catching up with [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=577586&page=39) - the RandRover/pro-bono one.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1772 "2011-05-19T19:27:21Z")

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It’s surely clear by now that “evidence” and “logic” are unknown concepts in classladyland, a land where all residences are built under bridges.

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**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1773 "2011-05-19T19:38:42Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> An egg has not been fertilized yet.

This is incorrect. Eggs are not simply something that is unfertilized. A fertilized egg is called a fertilized egg or zygote. The question remains. When do you think a baby/human being/person/whatever that has a unique “right to life” starts. Is it when it becomes a zygote (union of egg and sperm) or at implantation?

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**Author:** ![Beniamino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@Beniamino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beniamino)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1774 "2011-05-19T19:43:22Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> We’re only a few pages away from catching up with [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=577586&page=39) - the RandRover/pro-bono one.

Wow. I feel like, Gilgamesh, or something – to have achieved internet immortality…

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could end it by agreeing on something? Anything?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1775 "2011-05-19T19:48:51Z")

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> [@Beniamino](#):
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> Wow. I feel like, Gilgamesh, or something – to have achieved internet immortality…
> 
> Wouldn’t it be nice if we could end it by agreeing on something? Anything?

What, all of us? Not likely. I daresay but for a few holdouts we might end up agreeing that pro-lifers have few, if any, good arguments to support a ban on abortion. Their personal beliefs about it, of course, are something between them and their gods.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1776 "2011-05-19T19:58:29Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> Troll- an inflammatory claim that probably shouldn’t be aimed at posters who have been here for years, posting in threads in various forums, on diverse topics.  
> If you agree that abortion may be permissible to save a woman’s life (and at least **CLHP** thinks that) how much risk does there have to be on her life?  
> 100% certain death if the pregnancy continues?  
> 90%?  
> 75%?  
> 50%?  
> 20%?  
> 10%?  
> 1%?

I don’t know I’m not a Dr. The Dr. is the one who is supposed to calculate those odds not moi.  
Don’t call someone a troll because you disagree with their beliefs.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1777 "2011-05-19T19:59:41Z")

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> [@heatmiserfl](#):
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> This is incorrect. Eggs are not simply something that is unfertilized. A fertilized egg is called a fertilized egg or zygote. The question remains. When do you think a baby/human being/person/whatever that has a unique “right to life” starts. Is it when it becomes a zygote (union of egg and sperm) or at implantation?

Czarcasm said egg. An egg or ova is simply that.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1778 "2011-05-19T20:00:43Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> I don’t know I’m not a Dr.

I’m shocked. You seem so knowledgeable and well-read. Are you _sure_ you’re not a doctor?

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1779 "2011-05-19T20:01:35Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> It’s surely clear by now that “evidence” and “logic” are unknown concepts in classladyland, a land where all residences are built under bridges.

He’s the grumpy old troll who lives under the bridge:rolleyes:  
Taken from Bryan’s favorite show.Dora the Explorer.

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**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1780 "2011-05-19T20:02:02Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Czarcasm said egg. An egg or ova is simply that.

Please answer the below question:

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> When do you think a baby/human being/person/whatever that has a unique “right to life” starts? Is it when it becomes a zygote (union of egg and sperm) or at implantation?

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