# Abortion-clinic picketers.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 6, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935 "2011-05-06T05:57:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1781 "2011-05-19T20:02:44Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I’m shocked. You seem so knowledgeable and well-read. Are you _sure_ you’re not a doctor?

:rolleyes:  
At least I’m employed. I doubt you are.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1782 "2011-05-19T20:17:14Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Yes I’m a 16 year old boy. Most 16 year old’s post on subjext like the evils of abortion. You really are insane aren’t you.  
> Did you get the midol yet?

Try reading for comprehension - she said nothing about “16 year old” or “boy”.

> [@AlienVessels](#):
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> If you’re killing a person, it’s not ok with me.

What does that have to do with the subject at hand? Abortion is not “killing a person”.

> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> It’s an EXPRESSION. I have no words for dumb replies like yours. It’s a pro-life SLOGAN.

When you repeat it, it _should_ mean that you believe it to be true.

> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> How do you know that? When you choose to kill someone it becomes my business.

Do you stick your nose into every murder?

> [@](#):
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> How about the term “pro-support abortion as a choice then?”

Because pro-choicers support all choices, not just the one.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1783 "2011-05-19T20:21:09Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> At least I’m employed.

Do they let you work with scissors? Sounds like a potential OSHA claim, there.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1784 "2011-05-19T20:22:16Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> > [@Originally Posted by Brown Eyed Girl](#):
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> > Then I suppose you’ll need to work on getting the law changed.
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> No, but shouldn’t you? After all, what happened to all that talk about how everyone is entitled to their own beliefs? How no one should have the “religious” beliefs of another imposed upon them? Or does that only apply to those instances you can personally stomach?
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> This is precisely why the pro-choice position isn’t to be taken seriously.

This is precisely why the anti-choice position isn’t to be taken seriously. The law is already pro-choice, so why should we work to change it? What does that have to do with being entitled to their own beliefs? If you don’t believe in abortion, you are entitled to not have one.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1785 "2011-05-19T20:23:58Z")

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Do read my post.  
I didn’t call you a troll. What I said was that perhaps **you** shouldn’t call other people trolls.

I _am_ a doctor.  
Really.

What I believe is that the woman should judge for herself when the risk to her life from continuing a pregnancy is great enough to justify an abortion.

That means if she wants to continue a pregnancy that will almost certainly kill her- I’ll support that choice, and if she wants to end a pregnancy that almost certainly won’t kill her- I’ll support that to.

Now, do you want to try again and answer the question?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1786 "2011-05-19T20:28:27Z")

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> [@irishgirl](#):
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> I didn’t call you a troll.

I’m not sure what the value of restraint is, in this case. She responds equally stupidly to people who insult her and people who try to reason with her.

I’ve tried both, myself. No measurable difference in the intelligence of her replies.

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1787 "2011-05-19T20:29:41Z")

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But staying polite makes me feel better.  
😛

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1788 "2011-05-19T20:33:33Z")

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Then by all means, carry on. I figure in that case, it’s like petting a stuffed animal. It feels nice, even if the stuffed animal can’t possibly benefit from it.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1789 "2011-05-19T20:34:44Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> My belief is that abortion stops a beating heart because virtually all abortions are done after the heart begins beating.

It’s been shown to you over and over in this thread alone that virtually all abortions are done BEFORE the heart starts beating, and that the miniscule number done later are done because there is something extremely wrong with the fetus.

Your side would been given more weight if you at least stuck to the facts.

> [@AlienVessels](#):
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> You grant that I can judge a fetus is a person, but the implication is that you don’t understand why that belief morally obligates me to interfere with you killing a person?

Do you interfere in all murders?

> [@](#):
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> Can I use the same argument to immunize myself from interference in my killing of superficially human instances that I’ve defined as non-persons?

If it’s legal, go for it.

> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> I don’t know I’m not a Dr. The Dr. is the one who is supposed to calculate those odds not moi.

It should be obvious that she didn’t ask you to calculate the odds, she is asking you at what point, at what percentage of chance of death to the woman, are you comfortable with not allowing her to have an abortion.

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> Don’t call someone a troll because you disagree with their beliefs.

Seriously? Do you understand the concept of irony? :smack:

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1790 "2011-05-19T20:47:04Z")

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And now a blast from the distant past! Set the DeLorean’s clock for … _ominous music_ Two weeks ago!

> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> Thanks again. Keep insulting me it only serves to make you look the same way you accused me of looking:dubious:  
> **I for one am happy to be intelligent enough to be able to express my opinions without resulting to personal attacks**.

Bolding mine, natch.

I wonder what kids’ show she’s going to try to insinuate **I** watch (I hope it’s Blue’s Clues! I love that little scamp!)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1791 "2011-05-19T20:52:42Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> It’s a fucking typo you arrogant nitwit.

On the internet the only manner we have to express ourselves, and for others to judge us, is the written word. You seem to have a problem using proper written language skills, and people in this thread are looking down on you. I just thought I’d help.

(BTW, a classy lady like Ms Manners would have chosen not to swear or insult me and just said “Why bless your heart.” See what I did there? ;))

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1792 "2011-05-19T21:24:16Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> :rolleyes:  
> At least I’m employed. I doubt you are.

## WTF does this have to do with the price of tea in England?

Anyway…Please see post #1710. You have still not responded to any of the scenarios presented there and much earlier in this thread, though I do realize that it may be hard to find them at this point.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1793 "2011-05-19T21:44:01Z")

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> [@Little\_Bird](#):
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> On the internet the only manner we have to express ourselves, and for others to judge us, is the written word. You seem to have a problem using proper written language skills, and people in this thread are looking down on you. I just thought I’d help.
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> (BTW, a classy lady like Ms Manners would have chosen not to swear or insult me and just said “Why bless your heart.” See what I did there? ;))

You’re a pretentious snob.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1794 "2011-05-19T21:47:06Z")

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And the hits just keep a-comin’!

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1795 "2011-05-19T21:48:41Z")

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> [@Little\_Bird](#):
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> On the internet the only manner we have to express ourselves, and for others to judge us, is the written word. You seem to have a problem using proper written language skills, and people in this thread are looking down on you. I just thought I’d help.
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> (BTW, a classy lady like Ms Manners would have chosen not to swear or insult me and just said **"Why bless your heart**." See what I did there? ;))

Dumbest, lamest most ridiculously stupid comment on the face of the planet.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Little\_Bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Bird)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1796 "2011-05-19T21:49:40Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> You’re a pretentious snob.

You’re a snotty little cunt who can dish it out but can’t take it and thinks you are far, far smarter than you are.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1797 "2011-05-19T21:50:59Z")

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If snobbery was made illegal half the pro-choicers on this thread would be in jail. The other have have been respectful though. Thanks to them.

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**Author:** ![classyladyhp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5ac83/32.png) [@classyladyhp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/classyladyhp)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1798 "2011-05-19T21:51:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Bird](#):
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> You’re a snotty little **cunt** who can dish it out but can’t take it and thinks you are far, far smarter than you are.

Watch what you say to me you sarcastic, pretentious, retarded, vulgar lunatic? Go take your meds pronto.  
Oh noes whoa is me. Little Brat called me a female body part.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1799 "2011-05-19T21:53:36Z")

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> [@classyladyhp](#):
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> If snobbery was made illegal

Yeah, I bet a pansy-ass pseudo-fascist like you wishes all kinds of things you don’t like were illegal. It would save you all that mental confusion if everyone smarter than you was just thrown in jail.

And you’d have the whole planet to yourself.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-clinic-picketers/580935/1800 "2011-05-19T21:53:47Z")

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Seriously guys, whose sock is she? It has to be a joke, because it sure is fucking hilarious.

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