# Abortion is totally outlawed and no women is having one. How would society be affected?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 16, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-is-totally-outlawed-and-no-women-is-having-one-how-would-society-be-affected/510321 "2009-09-16T14:08:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-is-totally-outlawed-and-no-women-is-having-one-how-would-society-be-affected/510321/61 "2009-09-22T18:58:34Z")

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> [@lavenderviolet](#):
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> Don’t let Dailykos do your thinking for you. Think for yourself.

You could throw ‘check your links’ in there, too. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-is-totally-outlawed-and-no-women-is-having-one-how-would-society-be-affected/510321/62 "2009-09-22T19:31:56Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> It both amazes and disgusts me that 10% of the population would not allow an abortion even to save a woman’s life. “Well, the doctor could be wrong.”

It’s not that they think the doctor could be **wrong** –it’s that they think the fetus’s right to life is absolutely commeasurate with the mother’s, and that it is never ethically right to sacrifice one life to save another. So, in the same way that they don’t believe you could kill one person to harvest their organs to give another a life-saving transplant, they think that it’s wrong to kill the fetus so that the mother may live, even if doing nothing will result in the death of both.

By doing nothing, they believe themselves to be not culpable in the death of the mother, which is caused by the fetus. If they were to abort, they would be culpable in the death of the fetus, with no corresponding credit for saving the mother.

Note: This is not a view that I endorse; I’m simply explaining the reasoning behind it.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-is-totally-outlawed-and-no-women-is-having-one-how-would-society-be-affected/510321/63 "2009-09-22T19:43:43Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> But we’re looking at a hypothetical situation here, not “what if this particular misogynistic culture outlawed abortion.”

Which realistically is the same thing. Outlawing abortion goes hand in hand with misogyny.

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> :waves: Hi. You’ve met one now.
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> Note that I’m an anti-abortionist in the sense that I think that abortion is a terrible stopgap measure that hurts women’s rights, and I would like to see our government work towards actually addressing the issues that lead women to get abortions, \*\*not \*\*that I think making it illegal would solve anything. I would be perfectly happy for it to remain legal but unecessary.

Then you aren’t really “anti-abortion” as the term is normally used; and certainly not in the context of this thread which is about _ **outlawing** _ abortion. _I’M_ “anti-abortion” by the standard you are using, and so is almost all of the population I think; abortion is clearly second best to effective birth control by a large margin. “Anti-abortion” normally means “wants to outlaw abortion”.

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