# Abortion:  Pro-Life Will Win by Demographics

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 1, 2013, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897 "2013-06-01T22:38:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47c2d/32.png) [@Hershele\_Ostropoler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hershele_Ostropoler)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897/41 "2013-06-03T22:56:47Z")

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In addition to the excluded middle problem that’s been pointed out, beliefs aren’t hereditary. Conservatives can have liberal children, etc. Sometimes the indoctrination doesn’t take.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2013, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897/42 "2013-06-03T23:26:54Z")

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There was a group of people, a few decades back, who held that culture was hereditary. Nice fashion sense, but poor at respecting boundaries. Things got physical.

(Yes, yes, I know: Godwin wins again.)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897/43 "2013-06-04T01:24:07Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Back before abortion was a reasonably-safe option, virtually all people were pro-life, but not by choice. Since abortions became medically feasible, the number of pro-life people has been growing. I don’t see that changing much.

I don’t see it happening much, either. Cite?

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897/44 "2013-06-04T02:15:45Z")

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> [@Blaster\_Master](#):
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> I wouldn’t give this sort of argument much credence. To me, it’s about as solid of an argument as the idea that gays don’t have kids, so they’ll be gone in a few generations. First, it ignores the simple fact that sometimes kids have different opinions from their parents; in fact, it probably happens more often than not. Second, it’s WAY too simplistic of an approach to the issues.

It’s way too simplistic an approach, even for things that we know _are_ genetic. Tay-Sachs disease is genetic, and pretty much everyone who has it dies before they can have children. It continues to exist, because it is possible to be a carrier for Tay-Sachs. Even if being pro-choice _were_ entirely genetic, it might transmit to future generations in a similar fashion, even if pro-choice people never had children.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897/45 "2013-06-04T18:07:27Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> snip  
> . You’re very right; it isn’t as simple and black-and-white as my friend thinks.  
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This is exactly the point I was making in this thread; check out the third link in the OP:

> **[When life = misery, jail time, and/or death](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=690434)**
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> Marie Fleming, a woman in Ireland, has been denied the right to have her partner assist her in dying without him ending up in jail. So she has to remain alive and suffering while her body deteriorates: Some say prayer would be the best thing for...

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2013, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-pro-life-will-win-by-demographics/659897/46 "2013-06-04T20:28:39Z")

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Argh! And, yeah, the case in Ireland, where [a woman died because a therapeutic abortion was denied.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2012/11/16/irish-abortion-debate-after-womans-death-resonates-in-u-s/)

These guys do not share my values…

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