# Abortion: The One True Hill to die on **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 18, 2018, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401 "2018-05-18T15:04:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/162 "2018-06-08T18:04:06Z")
I’m going to point you back to my OP. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/163 "2018-06-08T18:05:37Z")
Ah, OK. Got too immersed in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/164 "2018-06-09T15:43:31Z")
> [@Clarisse\_McClellan](#): > > "4 "The word of the Lord came to me, saying, 5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; > > Granted this is god speaking to Jeremiah but this also, to pro-lifers, is proof that god knows everyone even before they are formed in the womb and has a plan for everyone even before they are born and to have an abortion is to usurp god’s power. Or so I’m told. • What if God’s plan is that you get aborted at 11 weeks? • The doctor performing the abortion could solemnly intone “Before you were born I set you apart” if you think that’d help. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/165 "2018-06-09T15:54:17Z")
A lot of people throughout history, innocent children as well as adults, have died in horrible and unjust ways. To say this is God’s Plan? Despicable. ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/166 "2018-06-09T20:44:31Z")
> [@AHunter3](#): > > • What if God’s plan is that you get aborted at 11 weeks? > > • The doctor performing the abortion could solemnly intone “Before you were born I set you apart” if you think that’d help. Does God’s plan include all of the spontaneous abortions , commonly and formerly known as miscarriages? Does it include all the deformities and defects and even Strokes or other problems that happen in the womb? ---
**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/167 "2018-06-09T20:49:09Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > By their logic, women who have an abortion are more powerful than God. I’m not sure they’ve thought this through. Incorrect. Nobody is more powerful than God, no matter what God allows them to do. > [@Chimera](#): > > A lot of people throughout history, innocent children as well as adults, have died in horrible and unjust ways. To say this is God’s Plan? Despicable. Nobody who knows anything significant about the Bible would ever think to make such a claim. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/168 "2018-06-09T20:54:48Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Incorrect. Nobody is more powerful than God, no matter what God allows them to do. So, god allows abortions then? What’s the fuss about? > [@](#): > > Nobody who knows anything significant about the Bible would ever think to make such a claim. So, there is no plan? When people comfort each other after a tragedy saying, “It’s all part of god’s plan.” they are lying? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/169 "2018-06-09T21:12:01Z")
> [@Flyer](#): > > Incorrect. Nobody is more powerful than God, no matter what God allows them to do. Well, God could have stopped her from posting that, but she allowed her to do that. > [@](#): > > Nobody who knows anything significant about the Bible would ever think to make such a claim. Liar. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/170 "2018-06-10T12:37:02Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > To say this is God’s Plan? Despicable. The world we actually have is indistinguishable from one where God doesn’t give a shit and doesn’t participate. But, if it comforts you and doesn’t hurt anyone else, go ahead and believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/171 "2018-06-10T15:25:20Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > So, god allows abortions then? What’s the fuss about? > \ God not only allows abortions, but She made humans so that we could come up with the technology to do them, so God created abortions. Abortions are God’s creation, and we should worship them as holy. ---
**Author:** ![Filbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/filbert/32/3433_2.png) [@Filbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Filbert)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401/172 "2018-06-10T17:36:32Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Ireland isn’t proposing it: it’s trying to repeal the law which contains exactly that ban. No exceptions at all. Vote is on Friday if I’m not mistaken. Repeal going through, so not all that relevant now (yay!) but that’s not been quite true since the ‘Protection of Life During Pregnancy Act 2013’; which gave legal exceptions if the mother’s life was deemed at serious risk. Unfortunately there was a lot of uncertainty about what constituted serious risk, so actual practice occasionally ignored that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/abortion-the-one-true-hill-to-die-on/814401.md?page=8)