Best example would be…well, the pandemic.
Yes, a perfect example of exactly what I warned NOT to include.
Any examples of damage Trump was actually responsible for?
New York, NY – Below is a statement from Kassandra Frederique, Managing Director of Policy Advocacy and Campaigns at the Drug Policy Alliance, in response to comments President Trump made yesterday during his White House Briefing on Coronavirus to escalate the international war on drugs:
“In an effort to distract Americans from his delayed response to the COVID-19 crisis—which at this point we know will likely cost hundreds of thousands of lives—Trump is unnecessarily choosing to double down on the cruel and inhumane international war on drugs, which has already devastated countless communities domestically and abroad. By allocating scarce and valuable PPE to soldiers for the escalation of this ineffective and elective war, Trump is nonsensically preventing these vital supplies from reaching the hands of our doctors, nurses, and healthcare workers—who are fighting a critical battle across the country and begging in vain every day for these resources.
Meanwhile, more people serving time on federal drug charges have been pronounced dead of COVID-19 and others will follow. This highlights how the federal government’s inaction to reduce prison capacity to ensure the health and wellness of those in its custody is causing devastating results.
Not only are these actions irresponsible given the current public health crisis we are in, but escalating the international drug war repeats the same misguided military response the U.S. has supported globally, which has harmed and destabilized countries like Colombia, Afghanistan and Mexico – all the while failing to reduce drug supply or drug use. Instead of doubling down on the war on drugs that has been a failure in every sense, we should be focused on rebuilding communities and fostering the health and safety of all people. This is true at all times, but especially during a global pandemic.
In four Trump years, US troops have not fired a single shot on foreign soil (that I can recall). That’s a disastrous foreign policy failure? We’re talking about comparing the man to Hitler.
One has to really thank the few anonymous grownups that remain; unfortunately, in a second administration he will accelerate de dismissal of those grown ups.
Lets face it, it is really asinine to expect Trump to be capable or competent when a shooting crisis shows up eventually. One has to notice that he has really not ended wars either.
And one has to note how items like reverse and reckless actions on climate change and race relations shows that this Nationalist bastard prefers to set future unrest worldwide and internal civil war for his own benefit.
You really need to see a doctor about your memory loss. Have you not heard of Syria and Afghanistan?
But that’s you deliberately stacking the deck. The pandemic killed more Americans than several recent wars, so it is 100% relevant when judging how bad the man is, no matter how much you want to invalidate it.
He is directly responsible for why the US is doing so much more poorly than any other country. He won’t join agreements on trying to fix the issue. He shut down the pandemic task force. He pushed against masks and other procedures. He got states to reopen before they were ready. Every death from COVID in the US at this point is his fault now.
Still, you can argue that’s fewer deaths than Hitler caused. True, but the man doesn’t have to be as bad as Hitler to be used in the fashion described. He just has to be bad enough that people would invoke him as bad in an attempt to win an argument against someone they disagree with.
And it’s not hypothetical. As some posters seem to have missed: it already happened to me on this very message board.
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Amazon and it’s executives and shareholders have been harmed by Trump’s interference in the contract processes, widely seen as revenge for the Washington Post’s coverage of Khashoggi’s murder and its coverage of his presidency in general.
The owners and shareholders of Goodyear were hurt by his petty vengeful effort to crash their stock price.
Every single time he interferes with the government contracting process in order to benefit a crony, it hurts the other legitimate competitors for that contract.
Every time he goes on Twitter and talks smack about a company because they exercise their freedom onto disagree with them, he damages the company, it’s executives and shareholders financially.
He has harmed former friends Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski by having the National Enquirer run a hit piece on them (it ran very shortly after her father’s death, IIRC. He tried to blackmail them with the threat of the article via a high level staffer and they didn’t bite, so he had them run it. Rumor is the staffer was Kushner who was also probably behind the extortion attempt on Bezos. Not to mention that Enquirer staff harassed their families, including minor children, while “researching” the hit piece.
He harmed the family of the young staffer who died of natural causes while working fir Scarborough many years ago by relentlessly suggesting without evidence that he murdered her.
He harmed Peter Strozk and Lisa Page and their families and children by publicly humiliating them over their affair.
He harmed Andrew McCabe and his family and children by taking his pension and relentlessly trying to prosecute him - mostly because his wife ran for office as a Democrat.
He harmed James Comey and his family by publicly humiliating him as well as firing him.
This board has post length limits, so let me abbreviate and say he’s harmed countless real people for revenge…Jeff Sessions Rex Tillerson John Kelly Hunter Biden Debbie Dingle Robert Mueller Don McGahn Mitt Romney Alexander Vindman Marie Yovanavich Rod Rosenstein this list goes on and on… for countless reasons, most of them mean and petty. In many cases costing them their careers as well as huge legal bills.
He’s certainly cost even his most loyal defenders a fortune in legal bills.
And he damaged his former cronies as well, like Michael Cohen and everyone else he threw under the bus.
Then there’s all the whistleblowers and inspectors general whose careers have been destroyed because they upheld the laws and were publicly humiliated by the freaking President of the United States for doing their jobs.
He’s harmed thousands of upstanding hard working DACA eligible young people who did absolutely nothing wrong.
He harmed people who believed that Hydroxychloroquine would give them immunity to coronavirus.
He harmed younger people who believed that if they got COVID, they would just have the sniffles for a few days.
This is just the direct stuff, there’s also immigration policy and foreign policy and all sorts of other policies he’s pushed through that harm anyone that’s not his “base”.
And I think he’s harming his “base”, just as much as he harmed the students of Trump U. Candidate Trump is whipping up fear in these people so they’ll send him money to help him get re-elected, then his campaign managers/ money launderers use it to buy themselves Ferrari’s and vacation homes. I can’t decide if it hurts them if they don’t know and don’t care to know though.
Can we do a separate thread about the bad things Trump has done? That is sidetracking the Godwin debate.
Jtur88, you derailed the thread with that.
'Way ahead of you.
After 13 years Britain and the United States officially ended their combat operation in Afghanistan on 26 October 2014. On that day Britain handed over its last base in Afghanistan, Camp Bastion, while the United States handed over its last base, Camp Leatherneck, to Afghan forces.[/quote]
Please refer your quack medical diagnosis to The Pit.
What? The OP asked “Is there a similar principle(in the US at least) for trump?”
You know that there are still troops there? Also missing is that some of the ones there were or are being targets of the bounties from Russia.
Of course Trump for weeks refused to consider the evidence, as pointed before, it is really reckless to not take into consideration that when a very serious incident comes, we can expect Trump to be MIA, AKA golfing.
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