# About Lies and Liars

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [June 4, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048 "2012-06-04T16:12:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/21 "2012-06-05T22:49:31Z")

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> I was central to a kefluffle some time back, when I was openly called a liar in GD. Repeatedly. Couldn’t believe it, was sure that one of the Luminous Ones would be right at hand to put the kibosh down. A stern scolding in no uncertain terms! But no. The rules had changed and, once agan, the memo had not arrived

I’d be interested in seeing this original thread and seeing how it compares. I did some searching and couldn’t find anything in GD where someone repeatedly called someone else a liar or said they were lying after the rule change that did not get a mod spank (I actually found one where I did, though no warning was issued), so if someone repeatedly violated the rule they should have been smacked (though the caveat is the mods need to be told of rule violations unless they are participating in the thread).

Can you recall the subject of the thread at all?

-XT

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/22 "2012-06-05T23:57:22Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> Can you recall the subject of the thread at all?

Here’s a lead:  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9269779&postcount=60](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=9269779&postcount=60)  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447653&page=2](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447653&page=2)

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/23 "2012-06-06T03:58:33Z")

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Who called him a liar several times? I vaguely remember that thread though I didn’t remember it being put in the Pit, but I don’t see where he’s being called a liar there. 😕

-XT

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/24 "2012-06-06T04:11:13Z")

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You know, I wasn’t going to do this, kinda shied away from it.

The thread that **Measure** got on to was sort of a “response” thread. The thread itself, the source of the contamination, was in GD and involved Israel. Surprise, surprise. And yes, it was **Finn Again**. Who is, on most subjects, comparatively reasonable and sane. Except for that one subject, where he isn’t.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/25 "2012-06-06T15:06:14Z")

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I feel like I’m watching that “Don’t make me sing” skit in SNL. What’s the big deal about linking to the thread?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2012, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/26 "2012-06-06T17:46:08Z")

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Well, in the first instance, I was wary of making it personal, since I was just interested in a clear and concise ruling, or as close as is practical, given the inherent difficulty. In the second, I wasn’t all that interested in poring over archives. You’re welcome to, if you like.

The only reason I mentioned it at all was it seemed to me that the policy changed, then changed back, then morphed into something else entirely.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/27 "2012-06-07T00:39:07Z")

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That’s kind of why I wanted to see the thread that gave you that impression. You might have a really good case here if you could remember the thread and post a link or remember enough to have someone else do a search. I’m not wanting to bust anyone’s chops here…just curious how it played out.

-XT

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/28 "2012-06-07T03:52:19Z")

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> [@XT](#):
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> That’s kind of why I wanted to see the thread that gave you that impression. You might have a really good case here if you could remember the thread and post a link or remember enough to have someone else do a search. I’m not wanting to bust anyone’s chops here…just curious how it played out.
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> -XT

I think [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=446551) is the thread. Post 39 is where the action, at least as it pertains to this discussion, really starts.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/29 "2012-06-07T04:24:33Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I think [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=446551) is the thread. Post 39 is where the action, at least as it pertains to this discussion, really starts.

Do you ever tire of being Johnny on the Spot with details like this. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/30 "2012-06-07T04:30:44Z")

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I think it’s part of why i pursued a career in history: i take a sort of perverse pleasure in tracking down information like this. I think i would have loved to be a detective, too.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2012, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-lies-and-liars/624048/31 "2012-06-07T07:31:23Z")

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Could be. Memory isn’t what it used to be. Or maybe it is, and I don’t remember.

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