About that torpedoed Iranian warship

Oh I see. No problem with what Trumps is doing now because “that is not legal”.

Whew! I am so fucking relieved. If Trump goes even more off his rocker and orders the military to bomb Canada because we posted a mean meme about him, I will take lots of comfort that it’s not legal to kill us.

Military law does not control what is or is not a war crime. This entire war is a war crime. Ipso facto, the torpedoing of this submarine… was a war crime.

And if you want to have a pissing match over who has more or less relevant military experience (as if that confers some absolute authority to make pronouncements on what is or isn’t a war crime?), we can do that, I suppose, but it won’t change that conclusion.

I’m sure that’s a big comfort to the dead Iranian sailors and their families, to say nothing of the half-dozen or so American dead/

The people who think that you arguing about its legality means you are defending Trump are acting like total fucking morons who should be ashamed of themselves.

Even though the Pit allows you to make stupid accusations, it doesn’t obligate you guys to, dumbasses. I know it’s an emotionally charged subject, but your aggression is so badly misplaced. I hope you don’t also go beating pets because Trump pissed you off

The accusation is:

That’s not an accusation that he is defending Trump (or Hegseth), it’s an act that he’s defending their atrocities. Which he is, with statements like this:

Despite acknowledging that many of the victims were likely conscripts with no choice in. The matter.

And on a personal note, I’m frankly tired of random veterans coming into military-themed threads and acting as if their service somehow gives them special insight into matters that they are really no more qualified to assess or judge than any civilian.

I mean, I’m a veteran too, but I am by no means an expert on humanitarian law or the law of armed conflict (though I’d wager that I have more education in it, as a lawyer and an officer who completed joint qualification level II, than most or all of them).

It’s highly likely that many of them were navy musicians. It’s quite typical to have band members on board for visits like this to other countries.

Whether conscript or volunteer, they’re still a combatant. From a legal standpoint, what’s the difference betrween killing a volunteer versus killing a conscript?