# About the name Murray, and English Language

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 9, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-name-murray-and-english-language/612349 "2012-02-09T21:52:23Z")\
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> [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](#):
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> Moray, Murray and Mary all sound distinct in every British accent I can think of.

Moray and Murray are different spellings of the same name. The first is now used for the area in the north of Scotland and the second is the surname which came from the placename. They’re pronounced the same in Scotland, to rhyme with ‘hurry’.

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**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-name-murray-and-english-language/612349/22 "2012-02-21T15:46:35Z")

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I’ve only ever heard the rhyme in the first-person: “_I_ had a tiny turtle, his name was Tiny Tim.”

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