# About the Pope?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 22, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016 "2018-08-22T02:41:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/1 "2018-08-22T02:41:56Z")

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Now we know what a Scotsman wears under his kilt. Hose, shoes, and garters to hold the hose up. So, besides footwear, what does The Pope wear under his cassock?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/2 "2018-08-22T02:51:06Z")

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Presumably underwear, at least. I don’t think he needs a spanx garment. Wasn’t there some kerfuffle about the Popes fancy red shoes?Ferragamos?

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**Author:** ![MacDuff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/macduff/32/482_2.png) [@MacDuff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacDuff)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/3 "2018-08-22T02:51:33Z")

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An alterboy.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/4 "2018-08-22T02:58:41Z")

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A Catholic friend once suggested that the Pope’s socks were holey, which was probably the first ever double entendre I ever heard and managed to understand around age 10, so the same may apply to his undergarments.

Blessed be the fruit.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/5 "2018-08-22T02:58:49Z")

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> [@MacDuff](#):
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> An alterboy.

**Moderator Note**

Let’s keep religious jabs out of GQ. No warning issued.

Colibri  
General Questions Moderator

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/6 "2018-08-22T03:02:51Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Wasn’t there some kerfuffle about the Popes fancy red shoes?Ferragamos?

Yes, but they go so well with [cowgirl hats](http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/UnNews:Pope_gets_new_hat).

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/7 "2018-08-22T03:07:48Z")

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Pope Benedict changed the color of the papal shoes to black.

The Pope wears standard underclothing under the papal cassock.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/8 "2018-08-22T03:24:26Z")

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> [@nelliebly](#):
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> Pope Benedict changed the color of the papal shoes to black.

Actually, Benedict changed from black to red. Francis changed back to black.

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> The Pope wears standard underclothing under the papal cassock.

Actually, popes wear trousers under the cassock, like most priests. [Benedict wore white, Francis black.](https://churchmousec.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/pope-attire-2013-afp-photo_1363680589061-3-0.jpg?w=490&h=505) I assume he wears standard underclothing under the trousers. (Francis seems like a boxers type to me.:))

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/9 "2018-08-22T03:52:13Z")

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IDK, seems like tighty-whiteys would do better.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/10 "2018-08-22T04:59:38Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> IDK, seems like tighty-whiteys would do better.

Francis is an elderly Argentinian. I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/11 "2018-08-22T05:31:18Z")

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Do elderly men always wear boxers? I know, I know I’m sheltered.🙂

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**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/12 "2018-08-22T05:34:21Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Actually, Benedict changed from black to red. Francis changed back to black.
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> Actually, popes wear trousers under the cassock, like most priests. [Benedict wore white, Francis black.](https://churchmousec.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/pope-attire-2013-afp-photo_1363680589061-3-0.jpg?w=490&h=505) I assume he wears standard underclothing under the trousers. (Francis seems like a boxers type to me.:))

Had it backwards. Thanks for the correction.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/13 "2018-08-22T06:10:58Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Actually, Benedict changed from black to red. Francis changed back to black.

Apparently, red shoes for the Pope are a tradition that goes back centuries, though Benedict got quite a bit of press for his expensive (and, apparently, sometimes bespoke) red shoes.

But, yes, Francis has gone to simple black shoes.

> **[The Truth Behind the Pope's Ruby Red Slippers](https://www.messynessychic.com/2018/02/07/the-truth-behind-the-popes-ruby-slippers/)**
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> Jude Law in HBO's The Young Pope
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> If the clothes make the man, then the shoes make the Pope – and more specifically, his ruby red shoes. The scarlet slippers have been reincarnated for thousands of years for his Holiness, and each pair has a story...

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/14 "2018-08-22T06:15:49Z")

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All I know is he goes #2 in the Vatican.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/15 "2018-08-22T06:30:47Z")

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Where do they collect the papal piss?

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/16 "2018-08-22T06:58:16Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Where do they collect the papal piss?

In the Vati-can? 😃

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/17 "2018-08-22T11:51:13Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> garters to hold the hose up.

. . . and deep as well.

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/18 "2018-08-22T12:45:36Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Do elderly men always wear boxers? I know, I know I’m sheltered.🙂

Care for a walnetto?

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/19 "2018-08-22T19:41:50Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> **Moderator Note**
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> Let’s keep religious jabs out of GQ. No warning issued.
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> Colibri  
> General Questions Moderator

With an OP like this, how long are you going to resist moving it someplace more frivolous?

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**Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/about-the-pope/820016/20 "2018-08-22T21:43:29Z")

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According to the Wiki pages on [papal slippers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Slippers) and [papal shoes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_shoes), the red color symbolized either the blood of Christ, or the flame of Pentecost. [I have also read that red shoes were also worn by Roman emperors, triumphant generals, and kings in the pre-Republican era.]

On one of John Paul II’s trips to the USA, an El Paso boot-maker made him a pair of red cowboy boots. I don’t know if he ever wore them.

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